HAYES
By David P Beiter
From: kalliste@earthlink.net
Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET
Subject: Angel of Death Slams Justice Dept in Inslaw Case
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 01:29:20 -0700
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Angel of Death Gives Deposition to Justice
Department in Inslaw Case
by J. Orlin Grabbe
On April 2, 1996, Charles S. Hayes--retired CIA
operative, Air Force Colonel, and Kentucky salvage
dealer--was deposed by the U.S. Department of Justice
with respect to the Inslaw case [1]. The attorney for the
Department of Justice, Beth Cook, seemed ill-prepared for
what turned out to be a brutal assault on the integrity of the
Justice Department itself, which Hayes accused of lying,
cheating, and stealing.
Hayes has recently acquired the Internet label of
AOD ("Angel of Death" or "Angel of Doom") due to his
efforts in encouraging the early retirement of corrupt
politicians. "Do you know the Angel of Death?" Cook
asked at one point. "I know him well," Hayes replied.
Hayes has previously testified with respect to the
Inslaw case, most notably before a Chicago grand jury in
August 1992. Hayes' extensive testimony in that case was
redacted under the National Security Act. The reasons for
the redaction are not known, but apparently the grand
jury's questions lead far afield from the principal topic of
the Justice Department's apparently illegal sales of Inslaw's
PROMIS software, and got into topics related to a tangled
web of freelance arms dealers, drug runners, assassins,
and government miscreants--whose murky and disparate
interrelationships Hayes dubbed "the Octopus"--a term
adopted and popularized by freelance journalist Danny
Casolaro [2], who used Hayes as a frequent source of
information. Hayes is said to have testified to detailed
criminal violations of U.S. law by employees of the
Department of Justice and other government agencies.
Although Hayes will not discuss his grand jury
testimony, other sources say that with respect to the Inslaw
case, he testified to a meeting at which he was present in
Brazil in the course of which Earl Brian called Attorney
General Ed Meese (then in the United States) to get
approval for the sale of PROMIS to the Brazilian
government. Hayes is said to have backed up this
assertion with an affidavit of Brazilian President Joao
Figueiredo.
Earl Brian, who is said to have marketed the
PROMIS software to intelligence agencies around the
world, is currently under indictment in California. The
indictment concerns ten of millions of dollars of fraudulent
lease transactions made while Earl Brian was Chairman of
the Board and Chief Executive Officer of three separate
companies: Infotechology, Financial News Network
(FNN), and United Press International (UPI).
Early in the April 2, 1996, deposition, Justice
Dept. attorney Beth Cook enjoined Hayes not to discuss
his grand jury testimony. Subsequently, however, she
began to question him about it. "Are you trying to entrap
me?" Hayes asked.
In the five-hour deposition, Hayes declared he was
not present to help Inslaw, nor to help any government
agency which was pirating software. "I'm here to help the
people of the United States, whom I hold in esteem second
only to my God" he said, and admonished Cook for what
he called her lack of preparation, laziness, and wasting of
taxpayers' money. He asked her if there was "some
medical reason related to the time of month" for her
"arrogance" and "obstinance".
Hayes asked to be reimbursed for expenses related
to the Justice Department subpoena. "We don't pay for
subpoenas," Cook said, although in fact Federal law
requires that expenses incurred in response to Federal
subpoenas be reimbursed.
Hayes pointed out that U.S. attorney Allen Lear
had threatened to bring the FBI down on him on January
18, 1996. "I don't think that's legal," Hayes said. Anyway,
"the FBI is not a chartered organization."
(A check with the Library of Congress shows that,
in fact, the FBI is not chartered. As such, laws related to,
and convictions based on, "lying to the FBI" are apparently
not valid, for no such chartered organization exists. The
correctness of this argument, based on lack of charter, has
been upheld in court cases involving the FBI in
Massachusetts and Vermont. In addition, since the FBI, as
a subdivision of the Department of Justice, is larger than
the DoJ itself, Federal law bars FBI employees from
receiving benefits. FBI agents who currently receive
benefits are thus apparently in violation of Federal law,
and could properly be required to return the money.)
Hayes accused the DoJ of theft, saying they owed
him money stemming from the largest gem seizure in U.S.
history. (This appeared to be in reference to Indictment
No. 86-44, U.S. vs. Antonio Carlos A Calvares, Mauricio
Alcides Kruger, Mark Edward Lewis, Empresa Brasileira
de Mineracao Imp e Exp. Ltda., filed Dec. 3, 1986, in the
U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky.
Charles Hayes personally delivered gems with an
appraised value of $1.3 million. Customs Form 4655,
Receipt for Seized Goods, dated July 25, 1985, for goods
delivered by Charles Hayes is signed by Paul E.
Carpenter. A similar receipt on July 28 is signed by
George F. Fritz, Special Agent, witnessed by John D.
Morton, RAC. The total seizure in the case involved more
than $10 million in property. Under 18 USC 371, 542,
545, Hayes says, he is entitled to *mordi*--this being
typically 25 percent of the total seizure, but a minimum of
10 percent.)
More relevant to the Inslaw case, is the fact that in
August 1990, Charles Hayes purchased used Justice
Department computers and peripheral equipment (Lot 097
from the U.S. attorney's office in Lexington, Kentucky) for
salvage for $45, and found on them copies of the pirated
PROMIS software, as well as sealed grand jury
indictments, and the names of Justice Dept. informants.
The General Accounting Office found the Justice
Department's sale of computers from which it had not
erased sensitive information alarming, noting, "The error
may have put some informants, witness and undercover
agents in a 'life-and-death' situation."
The Justice Department, having sold Hayes the
equipment, subsequently seized it under warrant--
apparently to prevent its being used as evidence in the
Inslaw case. But Hayes subsequently sued and got the
equipment back, plus a undetermined settlement amount.
(This case is discussed, albeit somewhat incompletely and
inaccurately, in David Burnham, Above the Law: Secret
Deals, Political Fixes, and Other Misadventures of the
U.S. Department of Justice, Scribner, New York, 1996).
In the April 2, 1996, deposition, Justice attorney
Beth Cook seemed unaware that the Justice Department
was under Congressional order from the Brookes
Committee on the Judiciary (see [1]) to cease the sale of
pirated software, not to mention hard drives containing
confidential information. Similar restrictions have been
placed on the IRS which, from its Martinsburg, West
Virginia, central record depository, sold some 40,000
pounds of used computer disks containing the tax records
of thousands of U.S. citizens--records of considerable
interest to credit bureaus, organized crime, and foreign
intelligence organizations.
When asked how he felt just prior to the
deposition, Hayes said, "Great, Kentucky's No. 1,"
referring to the previous night's championship win over
Syracuse by the University of Kentucky basketball team.
About the only thing that Hayes didn't accuse the
DoJ of in his April 2 deposition was murder. Others are
not so kind. In its Addendum to INSLAW's ANALYSIS and
REBUTTAL of the BUA REPORT, dated February 14,
1994, Inslaw notes with respect to the Justice Department's
Office of Special Investigations (OSI): "OSI's publicly-
declared mission is to locate and deport Nazi war
criminals. The Nazi war criminal program is, however, a
front for the Justice Department's own covert intelligence
service, according to disclosures recently made to
INSLAW by several senior Justice Department career
officials . . . According to written statements of which
INSLAW has obtained copies, another undeclared mission
of the Justice Department's covert agents was to insure that
investigative journalist Danny Casolaro remained silent
about the role of the Justice Department in the INSLAW
scandal by murdering him in West Virginia in August
1991."
Is the U.S. Department of Justice just another
tenacle of the Octopus? If so, then what is the meaning of
the phrase "with liberty and justice for all"?
Footnotes
[1] The Inslaw case was the subject of a Congressional
report: *The Inslaw Affair: Investigative Report by the
Committee on the Judiciary*, Jack Brookes, Chairman,
House Report 102-856, U.S. Government Printing Office,
Washington, 1992.
See also:
Mahar, Maggie, "Beneath Contemp: Did the Justice Dept.
Deliberately Bankrupt INSLAW," Barron's National
Business and Financial Weekly, March 21, 1988.
Mahar, Maggie, "Rogue Justice: Who and What Were
Behind the Vendette Against INSLAW?", Barron's
National Business and Financial Weekly, April 4, 1988.
Martin, Harry V., "Federal Corruption: Inslaw", The
Napa Sentinel, a series of articles with various titles
beginning March 15, 1991 and extending through March
19, 1993.
Fricker, Richard L., "The Inslaw Octopus," Wired, #4,
1993.
Bua, Nicolas J., Report of Special Counsel Nicholas J.
Bua to the Attorney General of the United States
Responding to the Allegations of INSLAW, Inc., March
1993
Inslaw, Inc., INSLAW's ANALYSIS and REBUTTAL of the
BUA REPORT, July 1993.
Inslaw, Inc., Addendum to INSLAW's ANALYSIS and
REBUTTAL of the BUA REPORT, February 14, 1994
[2] In addition to the sources mentioned in footnote [1],
the death of Danny Casolaro is explored in: Connolly,
John, "Dead Right," Spy Magazine, January 1993.
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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 7 Num. 89
Chuck Hayes, whistleblower on insider skullduggery, misses his
Value Jet flight, which then explodes in mid-air; Bob Dole
startles us all by suddenly abandoning his powerful Senate
position; and Bill Clinton is seen wiping a little tear from his
eye: Hey. What's going on?
From: revcoal@pcnet.com
Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET
Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Angel of Death (fwd)
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 06:59:32 -0400 (EDT)
Organization:
Some Valuejet speculations, FWIW....
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From: 3rdi@pinn.net
To: New Paradigms Discussion
Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Angel of Death (fwd)
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From: Free Speech
To: fsnw-l@freespeechnews.com
Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Angel of Death
Note: I do not necessarily endorse the conspiracy theory that will
inevitably flow from the following.
1. AoD has more envelopes to deliver.
2. AoD misses ValueJet flight.
3. ValueJet now reported as having been crippled by an explosion.
4. Dole announces resignation from Senate.
No doubt this comment will make some of you angry, but what the hey...
You don't suppose someone slipped ole Bob a plain white envelope, do you?
Since we know he can't beat Clinton, what more honorable way to fade into the
sunset with his $7 million pension?
Sorry, but the thought just won't go away.
Cheers,
Kit
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Libertarians do it freely,
but not without charge.
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05/15/96 10:43:00
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From: Tenega@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:53:06 -0400
To: capmicro@inxpress.net
Subject: Re: AoD
Hayes has been preoccupied with other matters lately, but says he is getting
ready to deliver another batch of envelopes.
Curiously, he and a colleague had tickets to fly out of Miami on that crashed
ValueJet DC9. They got stuck in a restaurant too long and decided to take a
later flight. Lucky for them.
JN
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From: Tenega@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:43:29 -0400
To: capmicro@inxpress.net
Subject: Re: AoD
Hayes and colleague saw news reports of the ValuJet crash while sitting in
the restaurant, drove to nearby AFB (Homestaed?), borrowed a Wigen (seaplane
that Hayes is very family with flying) and took an airboat and other
investigators to the crash scene that afternoon. From the beginning, they
suspected an explosion. JN
From: steve@linex2.linex.com
Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET
Subject: (Fwd) PIML 96051604 - Dole and Angel of Death Hayes
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:55:40 -0700
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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:51:12 -0500
To: emailwru@aol.com
From: Bill Utterback
Subject: PIML 96051604 - Dole and Angel of Death Hayes
PIML 96051604 / Posted to Patriot Information Mailing List:
[The following are unverified scraps of conversations picked up on the
net. Read and ponder.] PIML
Who is Hayes?
He is supposedly either one of, or a contact person for, "The Fifth
Column", a group of ex-CIA computer hackers who have become so torqued
off about corruption in the government that they have started their
own crusade against it. Supposedly they were able to acquire their own
Cray Supercomputer (rumored to be the one that had been in Clark Air
Force Base, it was air cooled) which they keep in a semi-tractor
trailer and move around at random intervals. They have been getting
the goods on corrupt politicians, and sending them envelopes
containing all the information on their favorite Swiss bank accounts
with transactions to and from. Included in the envelope is a little
letter which requests that they resign or the information will be made
public. Allegedly this is the reason there have been so many
resignations from Congress lately.
Now, the only part of this that I *can* verify is that there have
been a
lot of people resigning from Congress lately. I have seen Hayes get
articles in some of the alternative media publications (I think Media
Bypass may have done a story on him). If even part of all that is
true, then there would be a lot of people who would have a lot of
reasons to make sure that Mr. Hayes ceased his activities.
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Some of my headers necessarily get somewhat cryptic due to space
limitations. But it looks like the "Angel of Death" had tickets on the
Valu-Jet plane that crashed out of Miami. Lucky for him he got delayed
at a restaurant, huh?
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An explosion in the cargo hold is now reported as a possible cause of
the Valu-Jet crash.
Note: I do not necessarily endorse the conspiracy theory that will
inevitably flow from the following.
1. AoD has more envelopes to deliver.
2. AoD misses ValueJet flight.
3. ValueJet now reported as having been crippled by an explosion. 4.
Dole announces resignation from Senate.
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You don't suppose someone slipped ole Bob a plain white envelope, do
you? Since we know he can't beat Clinton, what more honorable way to
fade into the sunset with his $7 million pension?
Sorry, but the thought just won't go away.
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Hayes has been preoccupied with other matters lately, but says he is
getting ready to deliver another batch of envelopes.
Curiously, he and a colleague had tickets to fly out of Miami on that
crashed ValueJet DC9. They got stuck in a restaurant too long and
decided to take a later flight. Lucky for them.
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Hayes and colleague saw news reports of the ValuJet crash while
sitting in the restaurant, drove to nearby AFB (Homestaed?), borrowed
a Wigen (seaplane that Hayes is very family with flying) and took an
airboat and other investigators to the crash scene that afternoon.
From the beginning, they suspected an explosion.
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From: KALLISTE@delphi.com
Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET
Subject: Saint Colby & the Fifth Column
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 00:35:30 -0500 (EST)
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Saint Colby and the Fifth
Column
by J. Orlin Grabbe
When I first heard of William Colby's capsized
canoe and disappearance near his place on the Wicomico
River, I thought, "Well, maybe he won't be ragging on Jim
Norman and me anymore." It was of course absurd that
Norman and I had ever registered on Colby's radar screen
in the first place. We were small fry: Norman was an
unemployed journalist recently fired from Forbes
Magazine, while I was rumored to be an ex-academic
suffering a bad case of sunstroke.
Norman and I had met through the dead mediation
of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster. In my
peregrinations as a banking consultant, I had come across
the fact of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)
spying on domestic banking transactions, had thought this
a bit too Big Brotherly for my tastes, and had written an
essay entitled The End of Ordinary Money about the uses
of the monetary system for surveillance. Jim Norman, a
Senior editor at Forbes, had written about the same NSA
covert project, pointing out that Vince Foster was one of
its overseers on behalf of a Little Rock software firm.
Norman's research pointed to another explosive issue,
namely that at the time of Foster's death both Foster and
Hillary Clinton were under counterintelligence
investigation for selling U.S. secrets to the Israelis.
When Norman and I met in Reno, Nevada, I
learned about one of his sources--the point man of a group
called the Fifth Column. This person, Chuck Hayes, had a
nice computer and could do some neat tricks with it--
things in some specific areas in which I was looking to
educate myself. Hayes, meanwhile, had heard about my
essay The End of Ordinary Money, which I had published
on the Internet. Hayes, ex-CIA, got a copy from the CIA
library, and liked it. Hayes and I hit it off right away,
discovering an overlap of mutual interests.
For several years the Fifth Column had searched
computer data bases, including foreign bank accounts,
looking for evidence of political bribery, kickbacks, and
related subversion of the U.S. Constitution and political
process. They had uncovered the financial information
concerning the Foster/Clinton espionage. They had also
transferred millions of dollars from politically-related
illegal accounts at off-shore banks in the Cayman Islands,
Switzerland, and elsewhere to a holding account at the
U.S. Federal Reserve.
Jim Norman wrote an article Fostergate for Forbes
magazine about all this, an article which was cleared by
the magazine's fact-checkers and lawyers, but at the last
minute killed by Steve Forbes, through the urging of
Caspar Weinberger, former Defense Secretary and
Chairman of the Board of Forbes, Inc. I promised Norman
that I would publicize his article through the Internet, and
began a series on Vince Foster. The series also allowed
me to raise the issues I had discussed in The End of
Ordinary Money in a different way. The series generated
a large Internet audience, including not only sympathizers
to the cause of uncovering the cover-up, but also small
coteries of others with counteragendas--including White
House disinformation specialists, NSA email and usegroup
monitors, and a myriad of others bent on establishing
territorial rights to pieces of the story.
One example of the latter was Daniel Brandt, a
researcher who made his living off the CIA by selling a
database of undigested articles mostly critical of it. Brandt
had identified "information warfare" as a new ploy to
justify old intelligence budgets, and hence reports of the
Fifth Column by Norman and me had to be part of this
campaign. After all, Norman referred to Fifth Column
members as "CIA hackers", and they were reported to be
up to something good, so the story must be propaganda
since everyone knew that organization never did anything
worthwhile. Brandt then identified the ultimate source of
all this "Fifth Column" disinformation as probably the
"well-connected" Jack Wheeler, "a right-wing adventurer"
and contributor to Strategic Investment (SI), whom I
apparently gullibly believed. Neither my friend Wheeler
nor I could think of any good reason why I would be
getting information about computers or banking from
Wheeler, but this theory apparently made sense to Brandt.
(For the record, Wheeler is not "right-wing", whatever that
is supposed to mean. He is philosophically a libertarian,
although he was once head of Youth for Reagan, a
conservative organization. Wheeler had come to admire
Reagan when he heard a speech in which Reagan said,
"There is no Left or Right. There is only Up or Down: Up
toward liberty or Down toward tyranny." As far as
connections, I assume Wheeler has a few, stemming from
the time his grandfather was chief bodyguard to four
successive U.S. Presidents--from Teddy Roosevelt to
Warren Harding.)
But over at SI, Brandt's view was supported by
William Colby, among others. I don't profess to know how
much Colby was actually consulted with respect to SI
editorial policy, but Colby was known to support the view
that "Foster was killed but he wasn't a spy." (In Colby's
own case, this view would be simply inverted: "Colby
was a spy, but he wasn't killed.") Moreover, there was no
Fifth Column and no high-level source would admit to
having ever heard of this Chuck Hayes--hence Hayes was
just another liar and huckster with a hidden agenda of his
own. Colby, of course, knew very well who Hayes was,
but had reasons to pretend otherwise. The most obvious
one may relate to the circumstances by which Colby was
removed as CIA director in 1977, an action in which
Hayes was involved. But the more probable reason had to
do with political turf, for it would become abundantly
clear Colby was not in sympathy with the activities of the
Fifth Column, as Colby himself had a little piece of the U.
S. political process for sale.
SI relentless pursued the notion that the death of
Vince Foster was not a suicide. It specialized in
highlighting the ease by which the gaping holes in the
official story could be exposed. But ultimately it could
provide its readers no explanation for the continuance of
the cover-up, because it initially rejected the true
explanation: namely that at the time of his death Vince
Foster was under counterintelligence investigation for
selling U.S. secrets to Israel. Thus SI was not in a position
to explain to its readers why the Whitewater Committee
under Alfonse D'Amato would supposedly accept the
Foster suicide verdict at face value. The simple
explanation was that doing so allowed D'Amato to take on
Bill Clinton through the Whitewater investigation without
at the same time having to antagonize his constituents by
pursuing a line of inquiry destined to expose a can of
worms relating to Israel.
Yes, the Foster murder cover-up was an easy sham
to see through. But no one wanted to bear the burden of
doing so officially.
There were other people, naturally, who had
different reasons for going along with this scenario of
events, unrelated to issues of national security. British
journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard would dump on the
story by ludicrously claiming that a Swiss account number
found on a paper from the trunk of Barry Seal's car (an
account that turned out to have Caspar Weinberger's name
attached to it) was really an aircraft number--thus
providing one more reason not to believe those Jim
Norman articles about plundered Swiss accounts. But then
Evans-Pritchard had carried the information around for
some time, in blissful ignorance of what he had. After all,
the record from Seal was a series of letters--so how it
could be a Swiss "numbered" account?
Meanwhile, William Colby told Washington
journalist Sarah McClendon and others that Colin Powell
would be the Republican nominee for President. But
Colby wasn't able to subsequently explain Powell's failure
to stand for office. After all, since the Fifth Column was a
mythical entity, and the tales of political retirements
inspired by financial disclosure was disinformation, then
naturally the packets of financial information that were in
fact delivered to Powell could have no bearing on Powell's
political decisions. (The packets were said to have
detailed millions of dollars of undeclared jewelry received
from Kuwait, a stash of gold bars representing payoffs
from military deals, and involvement in an arms network
that does not hesitate to deal in proscribed products such
as plutonium or to plunder U.S. military bases for goods in
hot demand on the world market.)
But after Colby's death, how quickly he became
Saint Colby. Rumors ran amuck. Since his death followed
shortly on the heels of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown's,
surely a common hand was involved in both. Since Colby
was the man who had revealed the CIA's family jewels in
the 1977 congressional probe into intelligence activities,
surely he was now dead for whistle-blowing of the same
noble sort. Since Colby was an SI editor, and SI was a
publication that relentlessly investigated the Vince Foster
murder, surely Colby was a martyr to the cause of truth.
Publications that had not heretofore acknowledged the
existence of the Fifth Column now breathlessly reported
that it "cannot be ruled out" that Colby was the head of it.
The rush to deification was all quite nauseating.
Yes, there was definitely a Ron Brown connection,
for at the time of Brown's death Colby was working with
Brown in representing the interests of Vietnam to the U.S.
This hardly shores up the argument for sainthood. Even
those convinced a change in U.S. policy toward Vietnam is
mandatory might wonder about the propriety of an ex-head
of U.S. intelligence representing the interests of a foreign
power. This is reinforced by the Brown association, since
Brown himself reportedly asked Vietnam to deposit
$700,000 in a bank account for his personal use as the
quid pro quo for considering their requests for
reconciliation.
Colby had made his reputation as head of the
Vietnam-War era Phoenix project which had used
computer data bases to track political "enemies" in
Vietnam, many of whom were then targeted for
assassination. The ruthlessness he showed there was not
all that different from the ruthlessness he later showed
toward ex-colleagues when it came time to cover his ass
before congressional investigators. Colby's whistle-
blowing was dictated by necessity, not choice.
Colby may have simply fallen out of his canoe and
drowned. But if he was given a little nudge, one suspects
he was out of line with respect to his foreign
entanglements. And one seriously doubts the hands
involved were the same as those involved in the death of
Ron Brown. Ron Brown was after all (as I reported in
"Ron Brown's Loose Lips Seal His Fate") a threat to his
business colleagues, and he met his fate as a result of a
bomb triggered by a descending detonator aboard his
plane. Information about the bomb on Brown's plane has
already been released to British papers by MI6.
Meanwhile, the damage control minions in the U.S. are
desperately trying to see that the true story doesn't bleed
back here overseas. Fat chance.
Unlike the Fifth Column, which has used
information to expose political corruption, Colby was
seemingly indifferent to the corrupt uses of information
itself. In any event he wasn't around when the Fifth
Column delivered a packet of information to Senator Bob
Dole on Monday, May 13. On Wednesday, Dole then
dramatically announced his resignation from the Senate to
run full-time for President on a non-existent campaign
budget, in the apparent presumption of a receiving a
Republican nomination that will not come his way.
But don't be surprised if equally dramatic and
convoluted decisions are announced by the Clintons in the
near future.
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From: steve@linex2.linex.com
Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET
Subject: (Fwd) Fwd: Re: What about Boorda?
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 11:48:44 -0700
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From: dcox@ix.netcom.com (DANNY COX)
Reply-to: iufo@xbn.shore.net
To: Multiple recipients of list IUFO
Subject: Fwd: Re: What about Boorda?
I have seen a couple of posts concerning the "angel of death" on this
list, so I am providing the following update. The following message is
from Jim Norman (Tenega) and is directed to Sussman, owner of the cs
list. Jim Norman originally published the story about the angel of
death/fifth column in a publication of very limited circulation called
"Media Bypass", as I recall. Norman orginally wrote the article when
he was working for "Forbes" magazine, a year or two ago. Forbes
initially planned to publish the article, but it was cancelled on
orders from top management. Norman continued to research the story and
eventually lost his job at "Forbes". Hayes and associates are the
"angels of death" or "5th column", and they are supposedly current or
former members of the intelligence commumity who have tracked illegal
payments (bribes) to politicians and are forcing them to resign in
order to avoid public disclosure of their crimes.
From: Tenega@aol.com
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:03:39 -0400
To: djsussma@oakland.edu
Subject: Re: What about Boorda?
One of Hayes' guys delivered Dole an evelope on Monday, upon which
Dole, on the spot, agreed to resign from office. Don't know waht was
in the envelope. But apparently is was material OTHER THAN Swiss
bank account data. The stuff about Elixabeth Dole's Swiss account is
another shoe still to drop. Impliation is taht if Dole ever gets very
high in the polls, it will be delivered before the election.
I'm waiting to get a copy of Hayes' ticket stub from the ValuJet
flight. He and a companion, (another intelligence community veteran
and explosives expert), had flown to Miami to sell an airplane and had
planned to come back to Ky via Atlanta on ValuJet. Their tickets
would have allowed them to travel on any flight that day, I think.
But they had planned to take the ill-fated flight. They were delayed,
decided to have lunch and take a later flight. While at the
restaurant, they apparently saw a TV report of the crash.
Hayes tends to discount the idea that the disaster had anything to do
with his possible travel on theat flight. Yes, he says, his name wuld
have shown up on a preliminary passenger list. But would not appear
on the actual manifest, since he didn't make the flight.
As to Boorda: Hayes says that was just a matter of personal tragedy.
Boorda was about to be relieved of his command over the series of
fu**-ups by the Navy in recent months, from Tailhook to plane crashes
to prostitution and car theft rings being run out of the Naval
Academy. No Fifth Col. factor, however.
JN
~
From: al@powergrid.electiriciti.com
Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET
Subject: Re: PIML 96052103 - Still More Hayes/Angels of Death
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:07:06 -0700
Organization:
As a note of interest, Forbes cancelled the story on the fifth column
because their publisher emeritus was Casper Weinberger (I'm pretty sure it
was him)-- one of those that had his Swiss account hacked. Jim Norman was
given a blind Swiss bank account number by Hayes to check their story out.
Norman was able to determine that, in fact, that account had been hacked
and several million dollars returned to the US treasurey. Hayes claimed it
was done because the person in question had sold information to the
Israelis. Without finding out who the account belonged to, Norman sent the
story upstairs. The story came back dead and Norman was offered a good
severance package, or leave without pay. He chose to go (of course). I'm
dieing to read the book. Does anyone know if its out yet and what it is
called?
By the way, the CIA backs Clinton (he has worked for them since college in
England) and I suspect the fifth column wouldn't hit Dole to support the
Company like that. The CIA has done everything it could to hurt Dole,
including making sure Gringrich couldn't campaign for him in the primaries
and has to take a very limited role now -- but that's another story.
Alijandra
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Jim & Orlin--
Who is the "Angel of Death"?
Is this the same guy who found a bunch of secret files concerning
Confidential Informants on some used computer junk a couple years ago?
At the time it was merely amusing, and I did not keep a note of it. I
did not even write down the name. I do remember that he was keeping the
junk in the old Nancy, Kentucky, schoolhouse. But there is no "Charles
Hayes" at Nancy in the phone book.
Nancy is just across the lake from me. OK, it is a big lake, but it is
still only an hour's drive.
One of my research projects is the involvement of police, lawyers,
judges, politicians, bankers, prison guards, spooks, and other social
predators in the enormously profitable illegal drug business.
Is this fellow worth talking to? The CIA seems to be a major player in
the drug corruption. Is Chuck Hayes protecting or exposing this??
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has, upon closer examination, proven to be a barrel of vipers.
Date: Thu May 23, 1996 11:58 am CST
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You've got the right name and the right place. Keep digging. JN
Date: Sun May 26, 1996 1:58 pm CST
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U.S. SELLS SECRET DATA TO CHARLES HAYES
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*New York Times*, NATIONAL, Sunday, Sept. 2, 1990 (p. 25)
"U.S. Mistakenly Sold a Prosecutor's Secret Data"
Pikeville, Ky., Sept. 1 (AP) -- A United States Attorney's
secret computer files, including electronic copies of sealed
indictments and information about pending F.B.I. inquiries, were
mistakenly sold by the Government a month ago to a businessman
who paid $45 for what he thought was only broken computer
equipment.
The Justice Department now says the sale could compromise any
number of criminal cases, and it has sued the businessman to get
the data back.
The businessman, Charles Hayes, who resells Government surplus
items, says that he would like to cooperate but that the
equipment he bought, and various parts from it, have now been
mixed with his previous inventory and so he is no longer sure
which is which. He says he is trying to determine which of his
customers may have bought some of the equipment, but he is
resisting the Government's demand that he identify those
customers, terming it an unwarranted intrusion into his business.
-+- A Search of His Business -+-
The Government finds Mr. Hayes's attitude insufficiently
forthcoming. In addition to the lawsuit, which was filed
Thursday, Federal marshals armed with a search warrant arrived
Friday night at his establishment in Pulaski County, about 125
miles west of here. By the time they had left nine hours later,
they had seized what Mr. Hayes described today as nine computer
terminals, a computer memory device and assorted other equipment.
According to the Government's lawsuit, the case stems from a
mistake made last January when a technician for the Harris-Lanier
Corporation, the manufacturer of the system that Mr. Hayes would
later buy, arrived at the office of the United States Attorney in
Lexington, Louis DeFalaise. The system, in disrepair, was to be
sold at auction, and the technician was supposed to erase the
computer's memory.
In July, at an auction of the General Services Administration,
Mr. Hayes made a successful bid of $45 for the system: 13
computer terminals, two central memory units, two cartridge
module drives and nine printers. After Mr. Hayes picked up the
equipment on Aug. 3, the Harris-Lanier technician told the
Government that he had not erased the memory after all; A
magnetic probe used to scramble the data had been too weak, and,
because the equipment was broken, technicians had been unable to
purge the memory through normal computer commands.
The Government's lawsuit says that the computer's memory and
backup storage tapes almost certainly still contain sensitive
details about informers who work for the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, about sealed indictments, about federally
protected witnesses and about employees in Mr. DeFalaise's
office.
-+- "Irreparable Injury" -+-
"The U.S. Attorney's office," the lawsuit says, "used some or all
of the computer equipment to prepare and store virtually every
document and record generated by both the civil and criminal
divisions of the office from 1983 to 1989."
If made public, the suit goes on, the files could ruin criminal
investigations and cause "great harm and irreparable injury" to
the work of Federal prosecutors. "The seriousness of the injury
to the United States of America cannot be understated," it says.
Within hours of the lawsuits filing, a Federal district judge,
Eugene Siler Jr., ordered Mr. Hayes to return the computer system
to the Government and not examine, copy or distribute the data.
A hearing has been set for Tuesday.
Mr. Hayes said he had been told before he bought the equipment
that the computer memory had been wiped out. He called the sale
"the worst case of bureaucracy I have ever seen," and added, "If
it is this loose, I wonder what else is missing up there" in the
Office of the United States Attorney.
"What it amounts to," he said, "is I am being punished for the
inefficiency" in the prosecutor's office.
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SOME OBSERVATIONS ON THE NON-NEWS
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By J. Orlin Grabbe
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Some Observations on the Non-News
by J. Orlin Grabbe
The most notable feature of the current state of
journalism in the U.S. is the total dereliction of duty on
the part of national political reporters. More than fifty
congresscritters, senators, and state governors have
announced their retirements in the past year, after they
received packets from a group of hackers called the Fifth
Column detailing illegal and unreported income from
bribes, kickbacks, payoffs, and whatnot. This story of the
wholesale sell-out of the U.S. political process should rank
as one of the top stories of the decade. But the national
media blandly reports the contrived explanations ("I just
want to spend more time with my heretofore neglected
family") and speculates on the sad loss of Washington
country-club camaraderie that used to keep such fine
people in public office forever.
This lack of discernment reflects a level of
stupidity that should make unsurprising the general media
dismissal of the importance of Whitewater (prior to the
recent convictions obtained by Kenneth Starr), the head-
in-the-sand stance on the murder of Vince Foster (even
though virtually all official Washington knows Foster was
murdered), the gullible acceptance of the official story on
the downing of Ron Brown's plane (destroyed by a bomb),
the lackadaisical acceptance of Bob Dole's claimed reasons
for resigning from the Senate (he got a Fifth Column
packet two days before the announcement), the air-head
discussions of the coming "Clinton-Dole" election battle
(as though there is going to be any such thing), and the
"smell of roses" interpretation of the putrefying stench
arising from almost everything the Clinton administration
touches.
To be sure, some journalists have picked up part of
the story. But often they have pursued the partial picture
with a monomania that has turned their entire effort into a
circus sideshow. One example is that of Ambrose Evans-
Pritchard and Chis Ruddy who, while still trying to
convince who-knows-whom that the death of Vince Foster
was not a suicide, managed to acquire a Pet Witness to the
disposal of Foster's body at Ft. Marcy Park--a witness
whom they paraded forth with fanfare, accompanied by
tales of swarthy Middle-Eastern lurkers who scowled
fiercely in broad daylight (a staged event effective in
impressing naive journalists). When the Special
Prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, failed to drop everything he
was doing and devote himself to enhancing these
journalist's own sense of self-importance, he became,
naturally, part of the cover-up. But Starr wisely continued
to follow his mandate to untangle Whitewater-related
malfeasance on the part of the Clintons, and left the
sideshow antics to these misguided journalists who hadn't
a clue as to what was going on. Starr, after all, knew what
he was doing. (Although, to be sure, it took Starr a while
to realize that the FBI was out and about intimidating his
own witnesses, a fact Ruddy was to point out.)
The goal of the FBI in all this has been to keep
reporters in a state of somnambulism. But last week Louis
Freeh suddenly discovered his bread wasn't buttered on the
side of Bill Clinton, announcing that the White House
request for FBI files on prominent Republicans and others
outside the Clinton administration had been totally
inappropriate. The White House made a statement that the
whole thing was really just the fault of some Clinton
underling operating out-of-control as usual. Freeh's
statement meanwhile leaves unexplained why the FBI
turned over the 400-plus files to the White House in the
first place. Freeh's stated 400-plus number of files upped
the ante from the White House's admitted 300-plus
number. It also illustrates that the FBI can't count, or can't
tell the whole truth, since the actual number is 900-plus, as
has been verified by anyone who has bothered to download
the same set of files from the FBI computer, such as that
other government agency that is looking into the matter.
Maybe Bernie Nussbaum took the rest of the files home,
just to make sure the wrong people didn't read them.
Freeh of course is coming off the PR high of
having ended the Freemen siege without bloodshed. But
his problems in Montana aren't over. There is the little
matter of Montana FBI agents involved in drug dealing.
The Canadian-Montana border is now the principal
point of entry of illegal drugs coming into the U.S.
Montana is awash in them. A series of clandestine
airfields stretches across the state. Naturally the journalists
covering the Freemen picked up none of this bigger story
right under their noses. Big names are involved in the drug
operation, including the soon-to-be-indicted Governor of
Montana. Another name that surfaces in the Montana
operation is that of ex-President George Bush.
Bush's indiscretions are beginning to catch up with
him. This past week he took a trip to Bern, Switzerland,
together with Colin Powell, who is not running for
President. It seems that an arms deal between the two of
them went sour when a relevant account at the local bank
turned up missing $75 million dollars. In panic mode they
flew over to try to patch things up. Hope you two boys
remembered to smile a lot: You were on candid camera.
Maybe you should try something legal for a change?
Others are more overt in their criminality. Jackson
Stephens, Don Tyson, and Richard Mellon Scaife recently
pooled their pocket change and put out a $100,000
contract on the Angel of Death. They farmed it out to the
New Orleans Syndicate. The breakdown is reportedly
$50,000 by Stephens, and $25,000 each by Tyson and
Scaife. This makes the second time the lying Jackson
Stephens has hired an assassin this year ("I've learned my
lesson," he said, after the first one, Pablo, was put on a
plane back home). But I hear the CIA, which has never
really had anything against the corrupt politicians targeted
by the Angel of Death--after all they're much easier to
manipulate than the honest kind--has finally decided to get
on the right side of things. Say, Jack, what about that dead
body found lying in your backyard last week? You don't
suppose it was the chickenshit coming home to roost, do
you? As they say, payback is hell.
As if it weren't enough dealing with the criminals,
there are also the forces of law 'n order (if you want to call
them that) to worry about. Janet Reno sends word that the
Justice Dept. will leave the Angel of Death alone if he will
leave the Justice Dept. alone. It's an interesting
proposition: sort of like that of a pugilist who walks down
the street and punches a random passerby in the face, then
immediately announces, "Let's call a truce."
Ms. Reno, as one Harvard graduate to another I
take your word Justice didn't have anything to do with
destroying my private email and Usenet postings of
Hackers versus Politicians, Part II. You blamed the X2
division of NSA. Well, what about the actions of X2?
This is apparently the new Standard of Excellence at
Justice: As long as we don't commit any crimes ourselves,
we're doing okay.
One consolation is that X2 found those little
TCP/IP packets formed from Hackers versus Politicians
extremely toxic. Secret contents created a cancer in the
NSA computers that devoured them. Some NSA
computers were fried from mysterious voltage surges.
Others caught fire in thermite-like reactions. NSA
attributed these problems to an Act of God. This in itself
shows where NSA stands in the Divine Hierarchy.
One cannot say X2's instincts were wrong. The
Fifth Column has been supplying information to the
Special Prosecutor from the beginning. But after Hackers
versus Politicians appeared, hundreds of surprisingly
professional hackers began pouring relevant information
into the hands of Kenneth Starr and others. Their efforts
have greatly supplemented the work of the Fifth Column.
And all along Kenneth Starr has been quietly
building his cases brick by brick, preparing indictments
and sitting on them until the proper time, mapping out
court trials, sifting through evidence, not plea bargaining
when it is not necessary. In short, doing his job in a
masterful manner. But you will find few journalists on the
left or the right who will admit this, admit they were
wrong, even after the total success of the first Whitewater
trial. One assumes they will hold firm, even after Bill
Clinton resigns. Being a journalist, after all, means never
having to say you are sorry.
June 17, 1996
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Date: Fri Oct 25, 1996 12:09 pm CST
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 23:10:17 -0500 (EST)
From: KALLISTE@delphi.com
Subject: Angel of Death Arrested
Angel of Death Arrested
by J. Orlin Grabbe
The Justice Department doesn't like it when you mess
with their stolen software, in particular the PROMIS system
appropriated from Inslaw, Inc. Chuck Hayes should know.
He is currently being held without bond in the London,
Kentucky jail. All based on the tale of an unidentified,
undercover FBI agent. FBI agents, of course, always tell the
truth.
Hayes had his first run-in with the Justice Department
in August 1990 when he purchased lot 097 of used computer
equipment from the office of the U.S. attorney in Lexington,
Kentucky. He discovered copies of the PROMIS software
and all sorts of official records, such as the identity of people
who had been placed in the federal witness protection
program. When Hayes informed the Justice Department of
their sloppy security, their reaction was to seize the equipment
and to try to prosecute Hayes for receiving information he
shouldn't have.
On October 29, 1991, District Court Judge Eugene
R. Siler issued an injunction forbidding Hayes from ever
"possessing, retrieving, copying, duplicating, disseminating,
disposing, transferring, selling, discussing or publishing, orally
or in any other manner, any information or data which was
stored in any part of the computer equipment or related items"
in lot 097. (The case is discussed somewhat in David
Burnham's *Above the Law: Secret Deals, Political Fixes,
and Other Misadventures of the U.S. Department of
Justice*.)
But Hayes sued and got his equipment back from the
government, along with an undisclosed settlement amount
(rumored to be around $80,000). In addition to Judge Siler,
part of the case between the Justice Department and Hayes was
heard by Judge J. B. Johnson, who is now an Appellate Judge
for the Sixth Circuit.
In August 1992 Hayes again testified to a Chicago
grand jury with respect to the Inslaw case, but his Chicago
testimony was redacted under the National Security Act.
Then in April 1996, Hayes provided Inslaw attorneys
with an affidavit that detailed the government's use of the
stolen PROMIS software. Hayes was afterward deposed by
Beth Cook of the Justice Department, who made numerous
attempts to entrap Hayes into either revealing his secret grand
jury testimony from Chicago, or to admit to violations of
Judge Siler's order.
Now Judge J. B. Johnson, curiously acting as a
District Judge for the Eastern District of Kentucky, has
signed a criminal complain against "Chalmer C. Hayes, also
know as Chuck Hayes, also known as Charles Hayes" (Case
Number 96-6101M, October 22, 1996). An indictment was obtained
by Joseph L. Famularo, U.S. Attorney in Lexington, Kentucky.
The timing of this complaint is curious, given that
Charles Hayes' most recent activity has been to assist the
Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr draft indictments against
Hillary and Bill Clinton. Indictments for several people,
including Hillary, were signed by grand juries in Arkansas and
New York earlier this month.
According to the present criminal complaint, Hayes
supposedly contracted with an undercover FBI agent to have
Hayes' son killed for $5,000. (It is no secret that Hayes and
his son, who has had drug addiction problems in the past, do
not get along, and that there is some civil litigation pending
between them over an inheritance issue.)
An affidavit of FBI agent David R. Keller reports on
the activities of another, undisclosed "Undercover Agent
(UCA) of the FBI". This agent supposedly offered to kill
Hayes son, and Hayes discussed the matter with him over an
open phone line. Then Hayes conveniently sent a package of
documents to the agent, using his own return address. Then
this agent showed up at the Beckett Motel in Nancy, Kentucky,
where Hayes lives, while on his way to Louisville to scope
out the dirty deed, and Hayes gave him $100 in expenses.
Finally, Hayes promised this unidentified person $5,000 to be
paid a week after the hit.
Now I'm a novice at these matters, and it sure sounds
plausible to me that if I were going to have someone killed, I
would discuss the matter over the telephone so it could be
recorded, then send out incriminating documents using my
own return address, and finally invite the person over to my
house so all the neighbors can see the two of us spending time
together.
But would Hayes be this naive? Well, I've talked to
him on a daily basis for a year now, and all I can say is Hayes
is extremely circumspect in any phone conversation.
It would seem the Department of Justice hopes to kill
two birds with one stone: 1) to keep Charles Hayes locked
up past the election; and 2) to shut him up with respect to the
Inslaw Case and the stolen PROMIS software.
And, at least for the moment, they have succeeded.
October 24, 1996
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Date: Sun Oct 27, 1996 8:54 am CST
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:14:53 -0500 (EST)
From: KALLISTE@delphi.com
Subject: The Metaphysics of Political Illusion
The Metaphysics of Political Illusion
by J. Orlin Grabbe
Micah Morrison says he's never been able to
confirm Charles Hayes used to work for the CIA. That's
okay. I've never been able to confirm Micah Morrison
works for the *Wall Street Journal*. But he apparently gets
paid for something.
And most Kentucky junk dealers get their
testimony redacted under the National Security Act.
Because the chemical composition of ferrous oxide is now
a state secret.
There was a hearing today (Friday October 25)
about whether bond should be set for Charles Hayes. The
U.S. Attorney Joseph L. Famularo claimed Hayes was a
menace to society on account of he had been writing
articles under the pen name "J. Orlin Grabbe". They
explained the great threat posed by "Hackers Vs.
Politicians", and also discussed the literary works of
Robert Louis Stevenson..
Well, that's all very interesting, because here I am--
as Charles Hayes--posting to the Internet from my jail cell.
But as J. Orlin Grabbe, let me say this to you, Mr.
Famularo: You are not only a kook, but, moreover--you
stupid little shit--Chuck Hayes did not write one word of
"Hackers Versus Politicians." I resent you attributing to
another person the fruits and toil of my own efforts. But
then, you work for the Justice Department, don't you, Mr.
Famularo? No wonder you lie--it's in your nature.
Readers may fax Mr. Joseph Famularo at 606-233-
2666 to get his explanation why Charles Hayes and J.
Orlin Grabbe are the same person. Be careful what you
ask him, though. Mr. Famularo is somewhat
schizophrenic, and may decide that either you or he is also
Charles Hayes.
People are wondering what happened to the Starr
indictments. Nothing. Indictments were signed earlier this
month by grand juries both in New York and in Arkansas,
including an indictment of Hillary Rodham Clinton. I do
not know why they have not been announced, or why there
has been no bail hearing for Hillary. To withhold this
information from the voters is clearly playing politics.
Starr shouldn't do that. You can fax Mr. Kenneth Starr at
202-514-8802 and ask him to explain what's going on.
October 25, 1996
Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Date: Sun Oct 27, 1996 1:50 pm CST
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FOCUS ON CHARLES HAYES
======================
The book from which the following is excerpted, The Octopus:
Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casolaro, by Kenn Thomas
and Jim Keith, will be available in late November from Feral
House, POB 3466, Portland, OR 97208.
One person who might have had a view of how PROMIS works was
Charles Hayes. Newspapers identified Hayes as a salvage dealer
in Pulaski County, Kentucky, near the temporary home of Ari Ben-
Menashe in Lexington, who purchased $45 worth of surplus computer
equipment from the government in July 1990. The equipment
included 13 terminals, nine printers, two cartridge module
drives, 19 backup cartridges and two central memory
units--equipment that had been used by the US Attorney's office
since 1983 to maintain information via PROMIS on the witness
protection program, informants, office employees, and outstanding
grand jury cases. In August, when federal officials discovered
that a weak magnetic screwdriver had failed to purge this
information from the equipment adequately, two FBI agents
dispatched to make inquiries of Hayes were kicked out.(1) Three
days later, Hayes began to cooperate with the US Attorney's
office, denied that he had possession of any information that
might have been on the equipment, and invited an inspection.
Inspectors discovered that the serial numbers of the two
cartridge modules that Hayes claimed were the ones he bought did
not match the numbers of the modules the Justice Department had
sold. (2) Hayes then claimed he had sold the modules, but did
not name the purchasers until after federal officials filed a
lawsuit.(3) Justice Department attorneys later claimed that Hayes
had indeed tried to sell the secret information to an undercover
informant, but criminal charges were never filed. (4) The case
led to a congressional investigation of computer security; the
Justice Department now tosses rather than sells its extra data
storage devices.
(1) Baker, David L., "Computer Records Accidentally Sold,"
Lexington Herald-Leader, September 1, 1990.
(2) Baker, David L., "Buyer Says Agents Didn't Find Computer
With Secrets," Lexington Herald-Leader, September 5, 1990.
(3) "Buyer of US Computer Files To Be Disclosed," Lexington
Herald-Leader, September 6, 1990.
(4) Baker, David L., "US Says Pulaski Man Tried To Sell
Secrets," Lexington Herald-Leader, September 22, 1990.
...and
With the help of Wackenhut and the Cabazons, according to Ari
Ben-Menashe, the US developed its own version of the back-door
and the US and Israel began looking for a neutral company through
which it could sell the program to foreign intelligence services.
The company chosen for the task was Degem, a computer firm with
offices in Israel, Guatemala and the South African Bantustan
homeland. It had been taken over for the purpose by Robert
Maxwell, the publishing mogul who drowned under mysterious
circumstances in 1991. Through Maxwell's Degem, working in
tandem with Brian's Hadron, the software found a home with the
military regime in Guatemala, where it tracked leftist
insurgents. "Even if they traveled under a false name, various
characteristics, such as height, hair color, age, were fed into
roadside terminals and PROMIS searched through its database
looking for a common denominator. It would be able to tell an
army commander that a certain dissident who was in the north
three days before had caught a train, then a bus, stayed at a
friend's house, and was now on the road under a different name.
That's how frightening the system was." According to
Ben-Menashe, PROMIS was used in South Africa to track and squelch
the organizers of a strike among the black coal miners via their
mandatory identity cards (5). Degem also sold PROMIS to the
Soviet Union and the system was utilized by its GRU intelligence
service at least until the coup against Mikhail Gorbachev. (6)
(5) Oddly, a member of a congressional delegation sent on a fact-
finding tour to Johannesburg at the exact moment the world's
second largest platinum mine fired 20,000 black workers to end a
walk-out in January 1986, was Charles Hayes of Chicago. The mine
was located in the homeland of Bophuthatswana, northwest of
Johannesburg ("South African Platinum Mine Fires 20,000 Blacks
Over Strike," Lexington Herald Leader, January 7, 1986.) In
December of that year, the Charles Hayes, who would later buy the
loaded Justice Department computers but identified then as an
attorney, was involved with a gemstone smuggling operation in
Brazil with links to Kentucky. He represented one of the
Brazilian corporations indicted by the US over the smuggling.
(White, Jim, Courier-Journal, September 6, 1990.) (6)
Ben-Menashe, Profits of War, p. 141.
Kenn Thomas publishes Steamshovel Press, a journal that regularly
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Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et
pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9
Date: Tue Oct 29, 1996 1:04 pm CST
From: bigred
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Subject: Jim Norman: On AOD Arrest (fwd)
*caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it
is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the
following.
Jim Norman, author of the following, has worked as a professional
journalist for years, his last stint being a senior editor for
Forbes magazine.
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From: Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx
To: bigred@duracef.shout.net
Subject: Jim Norman: On AOD Arrest
>Hayes was picked up Tuesday afternoon about 5 p.m. by three FBI agents. hey
>cuffed him. No "incident." The indictment purports to claim that an
>undercover agent taped conversations in which Hayes contracted the killing
>of his son, then paid $100 in expenses. Attached is my opinion of the whole
>thing, as spelled out in a memo to xxxxx xxxxxxxx yesterday.
>
>In addition to the points in my memo and Orlin's post, things that smell
>really fishy:
>1.) The price is awfully cheap for a professional hit. And Hayes would not
>use an amateur.
>2.) The payment was to be after the job was done. Unusual terms in most
hits.
>
>My personal opinion is that the FBI fabricated the audio tapes based on
>months worth of tapping Hayes' phone. (I'm sure that from his converstaions
>with me alone they could pull together what looks like an incriminating
>string of statements.) Eventually they would have collected enough
>phraseology to concoct any sort of lurid scenario. You could wonder why
>they would take such a crazy risk. But considering the stakes involved
>(massive drug and arms payolla that would be severely hurt if Hayes were
>allowed to continue) it was necessary.
>
>The good news is that Hayes has a pretty sharp criminal attorney working for
>him now who has a track record of beating the FBI (and even getting an agent
>fired for fabricating evidence). I'm confident he will ultimately prevail
>in court. But the media slanders and damage to Chuck's credibility may
>persist and cast a pall over Starr's pending indictments. Evil abounds.
>
>Regards, JN
>
>(xxxmemo attached)
>
>24 October 1996
>xxxxx xxxxxxxx
>xxx xxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx
>
>xxxxx:
>Here is a copy of the federal indictment on which Chuck Hayes has been
>arrested and held in jail without bond in the London (Ky) jail. I believe
>this is a bogus prosecution meant for intimidation purposes. Here is why:
>
>1.) The timing. Hayes has been working closely with Ken Starr in drafting
>the indictments against Bill and Hillary Clinton. Hayes has indicated to a
>number of sources that those indictments will, in fact, come down BEFORE the
>election. Hayes himself would very well be a primary witness against the
>Clintons, in that his Fifth Column computer hacking team has generated much
>crucial banking documentation for Starr under a sanction from a high-level
>U.S. intelligence agency. It was such hacked bank records (introduced in
>after-hours testimony sealed under auspices of the National Security Act)
>which resulted in the conviction of Jim Guy Tucker.
>
>2.) The circumstances described. The FBI would have the world believe that
>Hayes was stupid enough to talk on an open phone line (Hayes Always assumed
>it was tapped when talking to me on that line) about this stuff, to someone
>he didn't know, then mail them incriminating materials with his own return
>address on them, and then arrange a meeting at his own home and place of
>business. Hayes may be unorthodox, even a bit crazy by our standards. But
>he is NOT stupid about this stuff.
>
>3.) Blatant errors in the information. One that leaps out is the claim in
>the affidavit that 606-636-6900 is the listed number for the Becket Motel.
>Wrong. The only listed number for the motel is 606-636-6411.
>
>4.) Motive. It is no secret Hayes and his son (a druggie) don't get
>along. There is civil litigation pending between them over an inheritance
>issue. But Hayes is not THAT hard up for money (he's worth easily a couple
>of million dollars) and no matter how mad he might be at John, It is utterly
>implausible that he'd put out a contract to kill his own son now after all
>these years of animosity, when he is on the verge of winning the inheritance
>case.
>
>5.) Capabilities. If Hayes wanted John dead, he would have gone up there
>and killed him himself or could have called on any of a dozen loyal
>supporters. Hayes is certainly capable of killing. He has in the past.
>But I absolutely believe this is a blatantly political prosecution by a
>corrupt Dept. of Justice desperately trying to protect a gigantic illegal
>money vortex of arms and drug money that has compromised the highest levels
>of our government.
>
>6.) The DOJ wants revenge. Hayes has been kicking their ass for the past
>year or more, partly through the internet postings of J. Orlin Grabbe
>(http://www.aci.net/kalliste/) and through Media Bypass magazine. He also
>submitted to a DoJ deposition in the Inslaw case last April that proved a
>major embarassment to the government. Not to mention the drubbing he gave
>DoJ in that 1990 computer salvage case (in which he bought used DoJ compuers
>with pirated Inslaw software on them along with witness protection files).
>
>Hayes' attorney, I'm told, is one Warren Scovill, 606-878-6400. A detention
>hearing on DoJ's petition that he be held without bond is set for tomorrow
>at 10 a.m. in London, Ky.
>
>Cordially yours,
>
>
>Jim Norman xxx xxx-xxxx (phone and fax)
>
>
>
Noti, Oregon (25 miles up the coast range from Eugene)
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Date: Thu Oct 31, 1996 3:43 pm CST
From: bigred
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*caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it
is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the
following.
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:17:31 -0500 (EST)
From: KALLISTE@delphi.com
Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton
Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton
by J. Orlin Grabbe
I had been out of state and only checked my
answering machine from time to time. When I got back to
Reno, I hit the button. There was a message from
Sherman Skolnick. Robert Strauss, a well-known
Democrat and head of a large law firm, had called him
three times. Strauss was threatening to have Sherman
arrested the next day, Monday.
"Has Strauss called you?" Sherman wanted to
know, when I returned the call. "No," I said. "He hasn't
threatened you?" Sherman asked. "No, but if he did, I
would tell him to go fuck himself," I replied.
Sherman had reported that Robert Strauss had lead
a delegation to the White House asking Bill Clinton to
resign. I had also reported the same meeting, albeit in
deliberately abbreviated form. I rarely paid any attention
to Skolnick, because most of his reporting was such a
mixture of truth and error, it would take more effort to
separate the two than to simply conduct ones own
investigation of the facts. But his account of the Strauss
meeting was quite accurate.
"Strauss was there, right?" Sherman seemed
unsure of his sources. "Or maybe there by
teleconference?"
"He was there, Sherman. He broke the ashtray just
like you said," I replied. I didn't tell Sherman the rest of
the exchange, the part he didn't know. Clinton had told
Strauss he could call the guards and have Strauss thrown
out of the White House. Strauss lost his temper: "You
do, and I'll break your fucking neck before they get here,"
he told Clinton. Two other people at the meeting stood
up: "And we'll help him," they said. (There were all sorts
of false reports about the meeting. John Glenn was there,
but only electronically. Ted Kennedy was not present.)
I told Sherman that Strauss was just blowing
smoke, and even though Strauss was a hot-head, I doubted
Strauss would do anything. Strauss had no legal basis for
doing so: Sherman's report was accurate. And I had no
reason to get involved: Strauss was doing the right thing
with respect to Bill Clinton, even if he was angry
Skolnick had reported the meeting. Strauss was not the
villain in the story. Bill Clinton was.
On Monday, August 5, shortly after the Strauss
visit, Chuck Hayes had a meeting with Bill Clinton.
Clinton had requested the meeting to discuss the issues
Strauss had raised. Clinton and Hayes had known each
other for years: Chuck Hayes had been Bill Clinton's CIA
controller, after Clinton was recruited into the CIA by
Cord Meyer of the London CIA station. Hayes had
supervised Clinton's forays into the Soviet Union, and it
was Hayes who had gotten Clinton out of not-so-
infrequent trouble while Clinton served the agency.
"Before I ever cross you, " Clinton once told
Hayes after having had his ass redeemed, "I hope I will
put a gun to my head and pull the trigger first."
I talked to Hayes about the Clinton meeting while
Hayes was still at the White House. He had explained to
Clinton some of the evidence that had been accumulated,
reinforcing what Strauss had said, and detailing numerous
other projected unpleasant consequences that would
accompany any decision to not resign.
The timing of this meeting was early in the game,
in what is now a full-scale war over Clinton's resignation.
Jim Guy Tucker was singing, specifically about Mena,
even while Tucker's lawyer was denying that Tucker was
cooperating out of fear that Tucker would be an
assassination target. Hayes, in a more practical mode, had
assigned two bodyguards to watch over Tucker.
In escalating the pressure on Clinton to resign, it
wasn't that Hayes disliked Bill Clinton as a person. It was
just that Hayes loved his country more, and wasn't going
to tolerate Clinton's participation in the transformation of
the U.S. into a narco-republic. It was Hayes who first
alerted me to Clinton's serious cocaine habit. In the mid-
80s, in Hayes' assessment, sure, Clinton would use coke at
parties, but it wasn't a daily problem. But now, Hayes
said, the coke was in control. And what Hayes claimed to
me about the seriousness of Clinton's cocaine habit, was
confirmed both by a White House source and by
personnel at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Clinton was doing
"five plus" lines of coke a day. That simply meant that
five lines was the *minimum* usage.
And it was Hayes and an associated group of
computer hackers calling themselves the "Fifth Column"
that was providing much of the financial and banking
evidence that Kenneth Starr needed to nail Bill Clinton to
the wall. This included downloading the entire White
House "Big Brother" data base (WHODB), complete with
its 2045 FBI files. (The Lippo computer was also
connected to the Big Brother system. Does this imply the
Lippo computer was also downloaded? I would advise
Mr. James Riady to choose sides carefully.)
Then Dick Morris resigned and began cooperating
with the Special Prosecutor. Clinton was panicked. Dick
Morris knew more about Clinton's illegal financial affairs
than anyone since Vince Foster (who had conveniently
died). Clinton wanted to meet again with Hayes to
discuss things. They agreed to a time and place. But then
Clinton cancelled at the last minute, and sent a jet to pick
up Hayes to take him to the new rendevous location.
Hayes refused to board the plane.
They finally met at an airstrip in Kentucky.
Clinton had an entourage that included Leon Panetta and
George Stephanopolous. Other witnesses to this meeting
include the Air Force Major who tried to intercept Hayes
as he approached the Presidential jet, and the member of
the Kentucky State Police who acted as Hayes'
bodyguard. Hayes and Clinton had a private conversation
in a motel room near the airfield. Hayes began by
presenting Clinton with a copy of one of my Internet posts
and an article from Barron's ("Federal agency attacked as
dispenser of corporate welfare," by Jim McTague,
September 16, 1996). The latter article gave context to a
lot of computer-generated information.
"Clinton's face turned whiter the more he read,"
according to Hayes. Their actual conversation is
confidential. But one incident that happened afterwards is
not.
A FEMA group showed up to talk to Hayes.
Clinton recognized them. "Did you tell them you were
going to be here?" Clinton asked.
"No," Hayes replied.
"Do you talk to them?"
"Daily."
"How serious are they?" Clinton wanted to know.
"Deadly."
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton had got it into her
head that the Clinton's problems could be made to
disappear. First of all, Dick Morris--like Vince Foster--
knew too much. She had conversations with an obscure
group at the National Security Agency known as I3. She
discussed details of a plan to murder Dick Morris. They
also planned, provided the Dick Morris hit was
successful, the assassination of Chuck Hayes. But word
got out about the I3 plans. The men were arrested and
interrogated.
Hillary's next action (see "The Dickheads Are
Getting Desperate") was to send sixteen FBI and Secret
Service personnel down to Kentucky to make inquiries
whether there was "some way to get to that son-of-a-
bitch," meaning Chuck Hayes.
And, ultimately, they found the ammunition they
needed: 1) a local U.S. attorney who was representing the
Justice Department in its attempt to quash all evidence
with respect to the theft of the PROMIS software; 2)
Hayes' ex-wife and one of his sons, who were involved
with Hayes in an inheritance dispute; and 3) a lying FBI,
eager to deflect attention from Fifth Column evidence of
FBI involvement in drug-dealing.
(To Be Continued)
October 30, 1996
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Date: Fri Nov 01, 1996 9:12 am CST
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Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton II (fwd)
*caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it
is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the
following.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:12:54 -0500 (EST)
From: KALLISTE@delphi.com
Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton II
Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton II
by J. Orlin Grabbe
"Being the FBI apparently means never having to
say you are sorry."
--The Washington Times, October 30, 1996
"What do you say to a hero-turned-bombing-suspect
you carelessly and recklessly linked to the Olympic bombing
in Atlanta this summer--a man who has seen his reputation
ruined from coast to coast and dawn to dusk in newspapers,
magazines and on the airwaves, and for three months running
has been, in effect, a prisoner in his own home?
"Oops? Sorry? It was a bureaucratic snafu?
"Not if you're the FBI. In that case you say,
'Unfortunately, criminal investigations often intrude upon the
lives of private citizens like Mr. [Richard] Jewell and his
mother' " ("The Richard Jewell treatment," The Washington
Times, October 30, 1996).
It's not just that the FBI can't say they're sorry.
They're in the business of creating suspects and victims, in
adherence to a legal Say's Law: *The supply of law
enforcement creates its own demand*. FBI agents "used a
ploy to try to get Jewell to waive his constitutional right to
have a lawyer present while he was being questioned. . . . The
agents told Jewell that he was being questioned in a mock
setting in connection with a FBI training film about how to
interrogate a witness. In the course of the discussion, he was
asked to pretend to give up his rights by signing a waiver
form" ("FBI's Interview in Bombing Investigated by Justice
Dept.," The New York Times, October 30, 1996).
This is the same FBI that killed Randy Weaver's
family at Ruby Ridge. Afterward, a high-ranking official, E.
Michael Kahoe, destroyed an internal critique of the FBI's
performance in the episode.
This is the same FBI whose undercover agent made
an illegal interstate phone call from Alabama to Chuck Hayes
in Kentucky on September 10, 1996, to discuss the killing of
John Anthony Hayes, according to the affidavit of another FBI
agent (Affidavit of David R. Keller, October 22, 1996). Such
a phone call is in violation of Title 18, United States Code,
Section 1958. But being the FBI means you are allowed to
break the law. Subsequently, the Department of Justice
charged Hayes with causing this unidentified, uncover FBI
agent to use the telephone in interstate commerce in violation
of Title 18, Section 1958.
Now if I pick up the telephone and call U.S. Attorney
(and identity expert) Joseph Famularo, it is--of course--quite
clear that Joseph Famularo made me do it. "Mr. Famularo,
got anyone you would like me to kill for $100?" So there.
Can we arrest Mr. Famularo on the spot? The thug (and
identity expert) is clearly in violation of Title 18, Section 1958.
This is the same FBI that gassed and burned men,
women, and children at the Branch Davidian compound in
Waco, Texas.
Of course the FBI does face a certain problem in
Kentucky. It is not well-liked. For example, the Washington,
D.C. FBI office sent out two cars that were specially
equipped to vector in on a ground-to-satellite signal said to be
eminating from time to time from an unidentified roving truck.
One of these cars was driving down the freeway and
mysteriously caught fire. The driver of the other car went into
a restaurant and returned to find a bob cat in his vehicle. The
bobcat had ripped out the interior and electrical wiring, and
shit on the remains. (Apparently even animals don't like the
FBI in Kentucky.) While the agent peered at the bobcat
through the car window, a lady from the local humaine society
showed up and threatened to have him arrested for having a
wild animal in his car. (The bobcat, meanwhile, popped out
the back windshield and ran away into the woods.) The car
was towed away to a locked garage.
But the FBI would like to blame its problems on
Chuck Hayes. It has been gunning for Hayes for a long time.
It was Chuck Hayes who essentially ran Louis Freeh out of a
high-level intelligence meeting convened to discuss the
downing of TWA 800. The meeting was being conducted by
an explosive expert and friend of Hayes. Freeh kept
interrupting with unconstructive political statements--asserting
authority before evidence. The altercation ended with Freeh
being dragged out of the meeting.
No, Louis Freeh doesn't like Chuck Hayes. This is
the same Louis Freeh whose FBI uploaded 2045 of its files
into the White House "Big Brother" computer system, for
political use by the White House. And it was Freeh's nemesis,
Chuck Hayes, who testified about the 2045 files to a closed
and secret committee of the U.S. House of Representatives,
held without staff participation, but with an audience of eight
U.S. senators.
This is the same FBI who aided their informant Emad
Salem in constructing the bomb that blew up at the World
Trade Center in New York City on February 26, 1993
(combined report by Paul DeRienzo, Frank Morales and
Chris Flash, "Who Bombed the World Trade Center?" The
Shadow, Oct. 1994).
This is the same FBI that is an unchartered
organization--one never authorized by Congress. Thus FBI
agents are simply Justice Department employees, illegally
receiving benefits, illegally receiving pensions, and illegally
carrying weapons. And it is not a crime to lie to the
Department of Justice. If your client is in jail for lying to the
FBI, I can put you in touch with the proper attorney who has
a proven record in obtaining the release of such clients.
This is the same FBI whose head, Louis Freeh, was
terminated by the agency's payroll computer in Oklahoma on
the basis that the FBI was not a chartered organization. After
all, we all know that FBI files are secure and sacred, so the
computer could not lie, could it? But Louis Freeh seemed to
hold Chuck Hayes responsible for the incident. How could
this be so, when official court records have declared that
Chuck Hayes is computer illiterate? No, Louis Freeh must be
blaming Charles Hayes out of pure spite.
This is the same FBI that rushed to do the bidding of
the White House in the Travelgate firings, doing criminal
investigations of people who had just been unjustifiably
terminated to make room for the friends of Bill and Hillary.
This is the same FBI whose agent David R. Keller
writes as follows:
"I, David R. Keller, hereinafter referred to as Affiant,
after having been duly sworn, states as follows:
"1. That I am a Special Agent for the Federal Bureau
of Investigation (FBI), having been so employed since July 19,
1971. . . .
"2. On or about September 6, 1996, the Affiant
learned from the FBI Office in Birmingham, Alabama, that
Charles Hayes, who resides in Nancy, Kentucky, at the
Beckett Motel, was wanting to hire a hit man to kill an
individual named John Anthony Hayes who resides in
Louisville, Kentucky.
"3. Affiant is aware that on September 10, 1996, an
Undercover Agent (UCA) of the FBI, acting in an undercover
capacity, made a recorded telephone call from the State of
Alabama to Hayes, in Nancy, Kentucky, at telephone number
[omitted].
"During this conversation, Hayes told the UCA that he
(Hayes) had been expecting a call and that the UCA may be
able to help him. Hayes stated that he need it done as soon as
possible and agreed to send the UCA a photograph of the
victim. Hayes furnished descriptive information and
background of the victim.
"4. Affiant is aware that on October 4, 1996, a letter
was received at the post office in Birmingham, Alabama, with
a return address of P.O. Box 185, Nancy, Kentucky, and
appeared to have been postmarked 9/11/96. The letter
contained a photograph of the intended victim, John Anthony
Hayes, and documents containing background information on
Hayes including John Anthony Hayes' address and the
vehicles owned by John Anthony Hayes." (Affidavit of David
R. Keller, October 22, 1996).
I find this chain of supposed events remarkable. First
of all, the FBI affirms its undercover agent violated U.S. law
by making an interstate phone call volunteering to kill
someone. Then this admittedly illegal phone call is "backed
up" by incriminating evidence that arrives via the speedy U.S.
Post Office only 23 days later--with Hayes' return address on
it!
Well, that proves everything. If the letter had Chuck
Hayes' return address on it, Chuck must have send the
documents. And I'm sure looking forward to hearing those
tape recordings containing the word "victim".
In the meantime, I hope no one sends out any
incriminating documents with David R. Keller's return address
on them. Or Joseph Famularo's.
(To Be Continued)
October 31, 1996
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CHALMER "CHUCK" HAYES: MYSTERY MAN
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The House Select Committee's final report on its investigation of
the assassination Dr. Martin Luther King describes FBI conduct
toward the slain civil rights leader as "morally reprehensible,
illegal, felonious, and unconstitutional." Subsequently the word
was that a "new" FBI, no longer like its former self, had arrived
and we could all relax. Yet the reports we've been hearing
lately on this federal busybody force belie the claim of
"modernity" -- whatever that's supposed to mean.
Does "new" and "modern" equal "better" when it comes to the FBI?
Not so. The Federal Bureau of Investigation's "new" face is no
different than its "old" face -- except that its agents are now
wearing nylon windbreakers bearing brazen and unashamed "FBI"
lettering on the back. It's still the same bunch that
"investigated" the JFK assassination; they have not changed their
ways. Waco, Ruby Ridge, Malcolm X's daughter, Richard Jewell:
these federal boys and girls, like Bill Clinton, just "do as they
please."
I know that Chalmer "Chuck" Hayes is an "ex"-CIA agent and many
may figure, "Who cares what happens to CIA people?" But the
point is that, like at Waco, all citizens, no matter how
unsavoury they might seem, are entitled to equal protection under
the law. The American Civil Liberties Union understood this
principle when, in the late 1970s, they defended the right of
Nazi swine to march in Skokie, Illinois.
Chuck Hayes, says local Kentucky newspaper the "Commonwealth
Journal," has been charged in a "murder for hire" scheme. This
charge is based on the FBI's claim that one of their agents,
working undercover, phoned Hayes and contracted to "scare, hurt,"
or murder Hayes's son in return for $100. Hayes, at last report,
is being held without bond. His location is not known.
According to an anonymous fax I received today (November 3,
1996), the charge against Hayes is false and is a maneuver by the
Clintons, Janet Reno, and FBI Director Louis Freeh against Hayes
"in an attempt to silence him and stop his investigation for Ken
Starr." What is more, adds the author of the anonymous fax, "the
delay in making the existing indictments from being made public
is only delaying the inevitable until after the election."
A preliminary check with one of my sources, an individual whom I
have code-named "Mr. Mercedes," leads me to believe that the
author of the anonymous fax is no lightweight in his access to
inside information.
The anonymous fax goes on to warn: "Welcome to Watergate II, you
sorry excuses for journalists. Sit back and watch the show
unfold with FEMA declaring a national emergency and voiding the
corrupt election of a criminal..." He adds that, "the Clintons
know their co-presidency is soon to collapse and they, along with
their cronies, are all heading to jail..."
(Personally I am thinking lately, "Hey, come to think of it, I'm
poor. So why should I care if Clinton gets in and taxes a bunch
of rich dudes?" Yet beyond economics it's a basic question of
right and wrong: no good can come from having a crook as
President, even if he is my crook.)
So not to get political (vote, or don't vote, for who you
please), but Charles Hayes, no matter what his past associations,
is a U.S. citizen with rights such as *habeas corpus*. No matter
one's personal opinion of him, the principle comes first: FBI
and the justice system has and does break the law it is
supposedly meant to serve. What is happening to Chuck Hayes is
an outrage, especially considering he is associated with an
unpopular, fringe group.
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ALERT: FORWARD TO ROSS PEROT
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I received the following communique from a person known to me to
not be a lightweight in his knowledge of "deep politics"
(Professor Peter Dale Scott's term for esoteric American
politics; see his excellent book, *Deep Politics and the Death of
JFK, Berkeley: University of California Press, 1993.) The
person who authored the following communique is a questionable
quantity as far as I'm concerned: yes, he has inside knowledge,
but if or not he operates with a hidden agenda is unknown to me.
My usual policy with information that may be important is to pass
it along and let the reader make up her own mind.
Also I offer the caveat that the following communique betrays an
anti-Israel bias. My own opinion is that Israel is not the "big
bad wolf" that some imagine it to be. This is hinted at, for
example, by evidence showing Great Britain as puppet-master of
Israel. Also, if Israel buys the U.S. Congress, whose fault is
that? Israel's, or the Congress which is widely known worldwide
as being for sale to the highest bidder?
Finally, the author of the following communique makes mention of
Media Bypass magazine and, specifically, that magazine's
investigative reporter Lawrence Myers. Regarding Media Bypass
magazine, they have published some good material in the past, yet
lately seem to be wimping out with legal mumbo jumbo which goes
nowhere. (For a good, fiction-based-on-fact account of what a
dead-end labyrinthe legalisms can be, see *Bleak House* by
Charles Dickens.) As to Mr. Myers, for all I know he may be a
fine, honest reporter, maligned unjustly in some quarters.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
96/Oct/30 (Wed)
Re: Chuck Hayes Alert
Dear Soul,
Please note that 1st hand report from 96/Oct/29 (Tue), concerning
the alleged bond hearing on 96/Oct/28 (Mon) is as follows:
1. NO BOND *EVER* to be allowed
2. NO VISITORS
3. NO MAIL
4. NO PHONE
5. Only alleged attorney visits (2 attorneys named: 1. Kirk
Davis, Burnside, Ky; 2. Warren Scolville, London, Ky; 3.
PROBLEM, one of the two attorney's offices, Congressman Hal
Rogers was observed as an office insider -- who is opposed to
Chuck [Hayes].)
6. Chuck [Hayes] was swooped on by an FBI SWAT team on 96/Oct/22
7. Normal procedure is bond hearing next day -- Wed. 96/Oct/23
-- NOT HELD.
8. Thur 96/Oct/24 NO HEARING held but hearing promised for
Friday 96/Oct/25.
9. 96/Oct/25 -- *NO HEARING*
10. 96/Oct/28 (Mon) Set for
(a.) ARRAIGNMENT for 96/Nov/22
(b.) TRIAL Pre-set for 96/Dec/2
11. Very, very unusual outcome based rulings on an
(a.) alleged felony, with
(b.) no one actually hurt,
(c.) no prior criminal record known or mentioned.
It is probably not wisdom to leave this thing bottled up in
peanut London, Ky. Please get this out on Internet or however or
wherever.
Also, we do not endorse the FBI/DOJ spin doctor Louisville, Ky
Courier Journal 96/Oct/24 story as verification when they have
(1) No Case #, (2) no Judges name, (3) no charge cited, or (4)
for DOJ/FBI false evidence creation abilities.
Please, if you can *get* *this* *to* *Ross* *Perot* (R.P.),
please do so. If you have no good way to get R.P., -- Please
put, "Alert, forward to R. Perot," on your Internet or anywhere
and *get* *it* *to* *R.P.*
Note:
Before Lawrence "Mossad Morrano" Meyers took charge at *Media by
Pass*, that magazine focused cover photos and stories on enemy
perpetrators -- detailing their evil deeds -- such as Diane
"Mossad" Feinstein.
Since Mossad Meyers is in control they focus on souls trying to
do good -- 4 of whom have been jailed or terrorized by the
FBI/BATF/DOJ -- so far. The *first* was the leader of fed
watchers: photoed on cover of Media by Pass by Meyers, almost
immediately jailed thereafter. The *second* was a witness hidden
from the OKC bombing perpetrators (BATF/FBI/DOJ) but exposed by
Meyers, who turned the heretofore unknown witness over to the
FBI/BATF/DOJ terrorizers. The *third* was when the new editor
and Meyers published against Mary Snell, the wife of Richard
Snell, and for his murderers, convicted felon Arkansas Governor
Guy Tucker in league with the former Governor. The *fourth* is
now *Chuck Hayes*, photo cover targeted in September 96 by
Meyers, imprisoned in October 96 by FBI/BATF/DOJ.
*WHO WILL BE THE NEXT VICTIM* of what should be correctly renamed
*MEDIA BY MOSSAD*.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
1996/Nov/1
Brian,
Please recall we have written to you in the past, having/working
with Chuck Hayes, Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx, others known to you -- Jim
Norman, so forth.
We have been de-stabilized by our imposter non-government for
trying to help covert community souls who wind up in a jam.
Which description now fits Chuck Hayes.
We are asking you to use your computer resource access to get us
"*best*" phone and fax [for] 2 to 3 persons:
1) Woolsey -- former CIA Director
2) R. Perot
3) Air Force General Cairn or Cairns (acting CIA Director four
short weeks, before Deutch.)
Each of these three has personal knowledge of Chuck [Hayes] and
may help if pushed/goaded.
Please respond in some way so we know you received this
communication.
Thank you,
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon Nov 11, 1996 11:26 pm CST
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Subject: Allegations Regarding Foster, NSA, Banks: Part 37
Part 37: Allegations Regarding Vince
Foster, the NSA, and Banking
Transaction Spying
by J. Orlin Grabbe
Shortly after finishing The End of Ordinary
Money, Part II, I received phone calls from Jim Norman
of Forbes Magazine, Bill Hamilton of Inslaw, and Gregory
Wierzynski, Assistant Staff Director of the House
Committee on Banking and Financial Services. They were
all interested in my references to money-laundering
activities in Arkansas financial institutions, as well as to
the use of the stolen PROMIS software in tracking
financial transactions.
Jim Norman was a Senior Editor at Forbes
Magazine whose article entitled Fostergate had been killed
by Malcolm S. ("Steve") Forbes. Forbes had done so at
the urging of Caspar Weinberger, the former Reagan
Secretary of Defense who was Chairman of the Board of
Forbes, Inc. Norman was interested in my references to an
NSA project to spy on banking transfers, because he had
information that Vince Foster, a Rose Law Firm partner,
oversaw such a project at Jackson Stephens' software firm
Systematics. He also wanted to get Fostergate published
elsewhere, and I promised to bring it to public attention
through the Internet. Not all of the material in the article
was familiar to me, but those parts that were had merit--
and in any case I didn't believe in military censorship of
information presented in civilian financial publications. (I
discovered soon enough, however, that most of the senior
staff of Forbes Magazine had ties to the intelligence
community, so perhaps Norman's experience was not all
that uncommon.)
Bill Hamilton of Inslaw had been pursuing a case
for years to collect from the U.S. government the value of
Inslaw's PROMIS software that had been stolen by the
U.S. Department of Justice. In its original form, the
PROMIS system was used for federal case management.
Another version had been converted for intelligence use in
tracking agents, operations, and movements. A CIA agent
named Michael Riconosciuto had worked on this version,
and--in connection with Bobby Inman of the National
Security Agency--had created code that would cause the
computer hardware to give off signals, disguised as noise,
when the program was running. (The standing waves
emitted can be modeled by mathematical functions called
"Walsh functions".) The program was then marketed
around the world by another CIA agent named Earl Brian,
who set up a company for that purpose. One of Earl
Brian's sales, made to the government of Brazil, was
observed by another CIA agent named Chuck Hayes.
Hayes had testified to this sale before a Chicago grand
jury, but his testimony had been redacted under the
National Security Act. These software sales were not
only profitable to Brian's company, but they also allowed
U.S. intelligence agencies to access the intelligence data of
the foreign country running the software. The signals
given off by the computer hardware could picked up by
nearby vans or, often, by satellite.
Another modification of the software had shown
up at the World Bank in 1983, where it was being used to
track wire transfers, apparently in connection with a
money-laundering operation that went from BCCI London
through the World Bank and into Caribbean institutions.
This was of considerable interest to me, because I had
learned in banking circles that the NSA was spying on
banking transactions, and that this apparently included
domestic financial transactions in certain instances.
Gradually I had learned that the NSA seemed to be
working through a Little Rock-based company called
Systematics, which was controlled by Jackson Stephens, a
principal financial backer of Bill Clinton, and a person
connected with the BCCI purchase of First American Bank
in Washington, D.C. In early 1995 I published on the
Internet a bibliography of Systematics' banking deals, and
in that context mentioned the name of Web Hubbell as
being associated with the NSA project--but I did not yet
know of Vince Foster's greater involvement. This
bibliography had apparently been used by Norman and
also by others pursuing the same story.
Gregory Wierzynski was interested in money
laundering. When I met with him and Stephen Ganis,
Counsel to the House Committee on Banking and
Financial Services, they were interested in any information
I knew of that connected Vince Foster to money-
laundering in Arkansas. I told them I had no non-public
information, and gave them a copy of Fostergate, which
Jim Norman had sent to me only a few days before. "Why
would Steve Forbes kill it?" Wierzynski wanted to know.
He knew Steve Forbes because Forbes, like Wierzynski,
had once served as head of Radio Free Europe. As time
passed, I became increasingly convinced that Wierzynski
was more involved in covering up than in actual
investigation. (Wierzynski's boss, Jim Leach, was
overheard saying to Newt Gingrich about the investigation,
"If we don't do something, this thing is going to get out of
hand." This gave me little confidence Leach was going to
conduct an aggressive search for the truth.) As best I
could tell, Wierzynski had been booted out of the
Pentagon after his son was caught hacking into Defense
Department computers.
Shortly after this meeting in June 1995, however, I
began my series of Vince Foster posts ("Allegations
Regarding Vince Foster, the National Security Agency,
and Banking Transactions Spying") on the Internet, and
sent copies along to the House Comittee on Banking and
Financial Services. A few days later Jim Leach wrote to
the Director of the National Security Agency asking about
the allegations:
"July 11, 1995
"Vice Admiral John McConnell, USN
"Director, National Security Agency
"Ft. George Mead, MD 20755
"Dear Admiral McConnell:
"I am writing to seek your agency's help in verifying or
laying to rest various allegations of money laundering in
Arkansas in the late 1980s. For that purpose, I would
request a briefing from NSA's Inspector General on
Friday, July 14 before 1:00 p.m.; if that is not possible,
sometime on Monday, July 17, would also be convenient.
"The reports I have in mind have appeared in the general
press and, sometimes in sensational form, in more narrow-
gauged outlets, including the Internet. They speak of
secret foreign bank accounts held by prominent people in
Arkansas, special software to monitor bank transfers, and
similar tales. I would like to determine whether there is
any substance at all to these stories.
"Specifically, I would like your Inspector General to tell
me whether the Agency:
"(1) knows of any secret bank accounts held by U.S.
citizens domiciled in Arkansas at any time between 1988
and now;
"(2) is aware, directly or indirectly, of any efforts by
computer hackers, U.S.-government related or otherwise,
to penetrate banks for the purpose of monitoring accounts
and transactions;
"(3) knows of or has participated, directly or indirectly, in
efforts to sell software--notably versions of a program in
use at the Justice Department called PROMIS--or
clandestinely produced devices to foreign banks for the
purpose of collecting economic intelligence and
information about illicit money transfers;
"(4) is cognizant of any attempts by Systematics Inc, an
Arkansas-based electronic data processor that is now a
division of Alltell [Alltel], to monitor or engage in the
laundering of drug money or proceeds of other illegal
activities, notably those conducted through Mena,
Arkansas;
"(5) can produce information about Charles Hayes, a
businessman in Nancy, Kentucky, who claims to have
been a CIA operative in Latin and Central America, among
other places;
"(6) knew of or was involved in, directly or indirectly, any
covert activities by the U.S. government or any private
parties (the so-called "private benefactors") in or around
Mena in the late 1980s;
"(7) had any contractual or other relationship with the late
Adler Barriman "Barry" Seal in the 1980s or knew about
his activities in connection with Mena.
"I would appreciate your help in shedding light on these
matters.
"Sincerely,
"James A. Leach
"Chairman"
(to be continued)
November 11, 1996
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*caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it
is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the
following.
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Subject: part 38: vince foster, the NSA, and bank spying
Part 38: Allegations Regarding Vince
Foster, the NSA, and Banking
Transactions Spying
by J. Orlin Grabbe
(continued from Part 37)
What answers Jim Leach's House Committee on
Banking and Financial Services received from the
National Security Agency's (NSA's) Inspector General is
not known, but apparently the NSA stonewalled the
investigation. On July 23, 1995, Gregory Wierzynski
emailed me, asking "Do you have suggestions on how we
could verify some of the elements in the Norman story?
I've talked to Chuck in Kentucky and am still in touch
with him. But his stories have not panned out, even
partially. I would be most interested in your ideas." I
found this statement remarkable, and knew that
Wierzynski was being deliberately obtuse. Moreover,
neither I--nor anyone else of my acquaintance--had told
Wierzynski that I was talking to Chuck Hayes in Nancy,
Kentucky.
Jim Norman had first suggested that I call Hayes--
had even implied that Hayes wanted me to call--but
initially I had been reluctant to do so. There were enough
people trying to get me off the Internet, and I was dubious
of the motives of an ex-intelligence operative. But when I
finally did so, we spent a hour and twenty minutes on the
phone in a wide-ranging conversation about money-
laundering. I jumped around from topic to topic, bringing
up numerous obscure connections between the
intelligence community and banking. In each case Hayes
was right there with me, adding details to what we were
discussing. From time to time I would make deliberate
mis-statements to see if Hayes would catch the
discrepancies. He did. By the end of the conversation it
did not matter to me whether Chuck Hayes was just a
hillbilly Kentucky junk dealer or an ex-member of CIA's
division D. His knowledge spoke for itself. He had an
intimate acquaintance with banking wire transfers, bank
computer operations, and banking-intelligence
connections, as well as detailed insights into current
hidden money-laundering channels.
Hayes was already familiar with my article *The
End of Ordinary Money*. He said he had gotten his copy
from the CIA library. The CIA had apparently either
downloaded it from the Internet, or perhaps had obtained
it through Robert Steele. Eric Bloodaxe, a.k.a. Chris
Goggans, an ex-Legion of Doom member who edited a
hacker publication called *Phrack*, had suggested I sent
copies to Winn Schwartau of *Information Warfare* fame,
and to Robert Steele, whose company Open Source
Solutions, Inc., published a newsletter entitled *OSS
Notices*, which advocated some radical changes to the
process of intelligence collection. Steele had reviewed
them as follows: "J. Orlin Grabbe has produced the first
two in a series of three papers on digital cash, and I found
them both educational and provocative. . . . He
approaches the matter from a civil libertarian/civil
disobedience perspective, and I find his perspective on the
history of U.S. policy and technology, as well as the
alternatives, well-worth review. This is a thoughtful
popular perspective on issues of electronic privacy which
bears on both the protection of intellectual property and
electronic civil defense" (*OSS Notices*, vol. 3, issue 5,
May 31, 1995).
Chuck and I had some differences, to be sure.
Hayes was spending much of his time tracking drug-
money laundering through the U.S. financial system. I
looked at the War on Drugs from an economic
perspective: supply restriction leading to vast profit
margins, with concomitant political payoffs and political
corruption, while in the meantime prisons were being
over-crowded with casual drug users. It was an exercise
in insanity. Nor was I a fan of the DEA, with its record of
civil rights violations. Hayes, by contrast, liked the DEA
for their street smarts, which contrasted with the desk-
level bureaucrats he was somewhat contemptuous of at
the CIA. But Hayes was gunning for the people at the top
of the drug-dealing and money-laundering pyramid, and
this was fine with me. There was a close association
between those administering the War on Drugs, and those
profiting from it. In the case of money-laundering, it was
even more blatant: it was hard to differentiate the money
launderers from those that administered the money-
laundering laws. I did not approve of the money-
laundering laws themselves with their invasions of
personal financial privacy. But on the other hand, hoisting
government junkies on their own petard did not perturb
me. Over a period of time, Hayes and I developed an
information-sharing arrangement.
Hayes was at the moment following the financial
flows through Arkansas financial institutions, as well as
through Mellon Bank in Pittsburgh. Also involved were
New York banks, some members of the Chicago
Mercantile Exchange, and at least one important official
at the Federal Reserve. On the Arkansas front, Hayes was
quite open in telling me he was going to nail Jim Guy
Tucker to the wall, and over the following year I watched
him do just that. One might assume from such a
statement that Hayes was a Republican, out to get
Democrats. But in fact Hayes' father had been a local
Democrat party official, and Hayes had been a friend and
admirer of John Kennedy. Hayes was not political in that
sense, any more than I was.
Some people have a strange habit of trying to
interpret everything in political terms. When I first spoke
to Sarah McClendon, she asked me, "Why are people
saying all these things about Clinton, and they aren't
saying anything about George Bush?" I refused to bite. I
told her I didn't give a shit about the difference between
Republicans and Democrats--that this was about
criminality, not about partisan politics. Some people--
Republican or Democrat--are honest, and some are not.
Sarah herself kept referring to the Clintons (Bill and Hill)
as "virgins," which amused me to no end. But my interest
was not partisan, and never has been.
In a contrary vein, Jack Blum, who recently joined
Jim Leach's House Committee on Banking as an
investigator (and who quickly recommended they drop
their Mena investigation), told Marianne Gasior that I was
a right-wing nut because of what I had written about Bill
and Hillary Clinton. Marianne said, "I don't think so,"
and read off my resume. Blum's response: "You're
kidding." Gasior was politically a liberal Democrat, and
when she was pursuing a case against Kennametal, which
had done business with Iraq during the Gulf War, she
received some support from Democrat politicians,
because the issue was embarrassing to Republican
interests. *Time Magazine* did a write-up of her efforts ("A
Matter of Honor," June 21, 1993). But when she began to
ask questions about what Hillary Clinton was doing on
the board of Lafarge Corporation, which was part of the
same smuggling network, Democrat support for her
research quickly evaporated (see "Whatever Happened to
Iraqgate?", *The American Spectator*, November 1996.)
To the average political hack, partisanship always takes
precedence over the search for truth.
In Wierzynski's case, while supposedly
investigating money-laundering for the House Committee,
he seemed to be actually serving other interests--perhaps
the Pentagon's, perhaps someone else's. Hayes had come
up with financial records showing that fifty to seventy
million dollars a day of drug-related money was being
laundered through the institutions he was looking at.
Wierzynski couldn't understand how such a thing was
possible. He wanted "proof" in a neat little package, say a
memo entitled "Today's Money-Laundering Report". He
seemed to expect to ask a few questions, and then *voila!*--
the darkest secrets of American political life would be
exposed. So it is not surprising that Wierzynski's
investigation had gone nowhere before Jack Blum arrived
to call the whole thing off. Meanwhile, Wierzynski's son,
in school in England, had been indicted for supplying
information to a group of Russian hackers in St.
Petersburg, who had pulled off a heist of Citibank funds.
Both Wierzynski and Stephen Gannis, the Counsel
for the House Committee on Banking and Finance, were in
touch with a San Francisco attorney named Charles O.
Morgan. Systematics (now a subsidiary of Alltel) had
hired Morgan to lie about its relationship to the NSA, and
Morgan proceeded to do just that. In an April 5, 1995,
letter to Michael Geltner, an attorney for Agora, Inc.,
Morgan wrote: "None of ALLTEL's operations or
subsidiaries has ever had any connection in any capacity
with the Central Intelligence Agency, the National
Security Agency, or any other similar agency in the
United States Government; . . ." But recent documents
obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by *The
Washington Weekly* from NSA show that, for example,
that "The Arkansas-based security contractor Systematics
Inc. on September 14, 1990 was awarded a $166,000 NSA
contract to build a 'Sensitive Compartmented Information
Facility' (SCIF) in Ft. Gillem, Georgia" (*The Washington
Weekly*, Nov. 11, 1996).
Morgan similarly denied any connection between
Web Hubbell and Systematics, writing, "Webster Hubbell
never served as an attorney or in any other capacity for
ALLTEL Corporation, or for any of its operations or
subsidiaries, other than a single instance in 1983, when
Systematics, Inc., engaged Mr. Hubbell to pursue a
competitor that was using Systematics, Inc.'s propriety
software without authorization; . . ." But it is a matter of
public record that when in 1978 Jackson Stephens tried to
take over First American bank (later acquired by BCCI),
that the bank sued Systematics along with BCCI, Bert
Lance, and Jackson Stephens. Filing briefs for
Systematics were Webster Hubbell, along with C.J. Giroir
and Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Hubbell subsequently went
to the Justice Department, and then to jail, after receiving
a $500,000 payment for unspecified legal services from
Indonesia's Lippo Group. C.J. Giroir left the Rose Law
Firm and set up a consulting firm to arrange deals
between the Lippo Group and Arkansas-based firms.
Hillary Clinton recently declared her friendship for ex-
Lippo employee and Democrat fund-raiser John Huang,
and was also indicted by grand juries in Little Rock and in
New York in October 1996. These indictments have not
yet been made public.)
But the non-pursuit of the drug-money laundering
trail by the Leach Committee was not surprising. It
stepped on too many toes. Hayes and I agreed that the
U.S. was being rapidly transformed into a narco-republic.
The drug cartels had penetrated the highest levels of the
Justice Department and the FBI, elements of the
intelligence community, and were additionally bribing a
broad assortment of state and federal government
employees and politicians. Even more alarming, the
cartels were now making inroads into the White House.
And the Clinton administration, with lax security
stemming largely from a variety of drug-related issues,
along with a pre-existing legacy of political corruption in
Arkansas, had created a free-for-all playground for
foreign agents. Everything was for sale, from trade policy
to nuclear codes. Moreover, Bill Clinton (or perhaps those
he surrounded himself with, while he partied on the side)
was making rapid progress in turning the FBI and the
Secret Service into a private political police force--a
Gestapo whose duty was to investigate and harass (and
even kill) his political opponents, and to cover up
evidence of his own bad deeds.
Extraordinary times required extraordinary
measures. Enter the Fifth Column.
(to be continued)
November 12, 1996
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Subject: part 39: allegations re vince foster, the NSA, and bank spying
Part 39: Allegations Regarding Vince
Foster, the NSA, and Banking
Transactions Spying
by J. Orlin Grabbe
(continued from Part 38)
The creation of the Fifth Column to deal with
official corruption was necessitated by a confluence of
several factors.
1. First of all, there is the corruption of the Justice
Department itself. One couldn't simply turn over the
fruits of a lot of hard investigative work, involving both
financial and other information, to the Department of
Justice, and expect to see justice done. The Justice
Department is part and parcel of the same corrupt system.
Nowhere is this more in evidence than the theft by
"trickery, deceit, and fraud" (in the words of a federal
bankruptcy judge) of the PROMIS software. The Justice
Department is bent on discrediting, ruining, or indicting
anyone who is harmful to the government's case. The
Department's carrot-and-stick method of operation can be
seen from the following paragrahs found in an affidavit of
Michael J. Riconosciuto (March 21, 1991):
"In February 1991, I had a
telephone conversation with Peter
Videnieks, then still employed by the U.S.
Department of Justice. Videnieks
attempted during this telephone
conversation to persuade me not to
cooperate with an independent
investigation of the government's piracy of
INSLAW's proprietary PROMIS software
being conducted by the Committee on the
Judiciary of the U.S. House of
Representatives.
"[Carrot:] Videnieks stated that I
would be rewarded for a decision not to
cooperate with the House Judiciary
Committee investigation. Videnieks
forecasted an immediate and favorable
resolution of a protracted child custody
dispute being prosecuted against my wife
by her former husband, if I were to decide
not to cooperate with the House Judiciary
Committee investigation.
"[Stick:] Videnieks also outlined
specific punishments that I could expect to
receive from the U.S. Department of
Justice if I cooperate with the House
Judiciary Committee's investigation.
"[Stick #1:] One punishment that
Videnieks outlined was the future inclusion
of me and my father in a criminal
prosecution of certain business associates
of mine in Orange County, California, in
connection with the operation of a savings
and loan institution in Orange C