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From: " Judy "
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:58 -0800 (PST)
To: Webmaster@dare.org
Cc: 
Subject: need info ASAP
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To whom it may concern:

Could you e-mail me some good reasons and facts on why marajuana [sic] 
should not be legalized?  I need it by 2/27 (or 2/28) for a discussion in
my youth group.  I wish to enlighten others on why it is wrong.  My name
is Judy, I'm 17, and I've heard some solid arguments on why it should be
legal.  I'm beginning to lose faith in my side of this argument.  Without
facts, I have nothing to base my beliefs on.  Please help.

-Judy

Webmaster Response: Judy-  If you're beginning to lose your
faith in that side of the argument then maybe you should trust your
instincts and look further into the matters.  Check out
http://www.druglibrary.org for some ideas on where to start.


Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 10:33:57 -0800
From: ### ##### <#####@earthlink.net>
To: webmaster@dare.org
Subject: Info for teachers?
X-URL: http://www.dare.org/index.html#reference

Hello there,

I am an elementary school teacher in California and next week my 
school will be deciding whether or not to use the DARE program this 
year.  We have used it several times before, but last year I was able 
to convince the administration that the program does not work.  Would 
you mind if I printed out pages of your site and handed them over to 
the administration to support my opinion?  Also, have you thought 
about distilling the site down into a booklet (printed or 
dowmloadable) that could be put into the DARE evaluation process in 
schools?

Thanks,

XXX XXXXX
XXXXXXX@earthlink.net

Webmaster Response: Please, please take whatever you
like.  Print as many copies as you like, hand them out to anyone you
please.  Right now we produce this site with no budget whatsoever,
so printing anything is out of our reach.  Perhaps if we could find
some kind donors who might be willing to help us defray the printing
costs it would be possible.


From: *******@******.***
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:28 -0600
To: webmaster@dare.org
Subject: I'd like to report some information
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to your organization and hopefully it will get
put in the proper authorities hands.  
Name: Marge ******
Address:   ***** ****** St.  *******  Wisc.
Substance:  Marijuana user and dealer
Possible cocaine dealer
I would hope that this "tip" remains in the
strictest of confidence.  I will be willing to cooperate with
authorities.

Webmaster Response: Hey there's one person who's probably psyched this page exists!


Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 22:17:07 -0400 To: webmaster@dare.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3 BETA X-Personal_name: XXX From: XXXXX@sscc.org Subject: . Status: You people should truly be ashamed of yourself. It appears you will stop at absoluetly NOTHING to push your pro-drug propaganda. Beat around the bush all you want, that is EXACTLY what your page represents. The fact that you took the domain name dare.org shows how desperate you are to make young adults believe that it is alright to use marijuana. You people wallow in your lies and distorted facts and figures, waiting to debunk reasonable scientific evidence. I must honestly believe that you do not understand the nature of what you support. You obviously do not understand that the fanatics who have supplied you with your base information about the effects of drug abuse are liars, and, like you, will stop at nothing to get their distorted view of the world across to young people. I hope one day you wake up and realize what you're doing. XXX Webmaster Response: I don't know where you got the idea that we are 'pro-drug' but your reasoning reminds me of pro-life activists' suggestion that because someone is pro-choice they are pro-abortion. The purpose of this web site is to give light to the ineffectiveness of the DARE program and to urge Boards of Education all around the country to reconsider wasting valuable tax-dollars on a program that has been shown to be as ineffective as simply doing nothing. What you call 'lies and distorted facts and figures' which you say come from 'liars ... who will stop at nothing to get their distorted view of the world across to young people' are the likes of The Bureau of Justice Assistance, The Washington Post, USA Today, The Boston Herald, The L.A. Times, and studies prepared at the request of the California State Department of Education. So while we understand fully who the people are that we get our articles and statistics from - they are the mainstream media. I hope one day you wake up and realize what we're doing.


From: "Rich" To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: dare Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 23:27:15 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal I am an american teen, and I do drugs (not saying it like i'm proud of it, just saying that I do), and dare is just a big waste of money. When I was in 5th and 6th grade I recived the dare program stuff for 2 weeks. At this time I had no idea if I were ever to try drugs, the thought never even passed my mind. During those 2 weeks I was told blatant lies about drug use and drugs in general.. I was told that pot (just smoking pot) has killed millions of people, which is so untrue it's not even funny.. Not one person on this planet has died from pot smoke alone. They should have re-worded that one, people do die from smoking pot, but not from the smoke, but from doing somthing stupid while under the influence. Another lie I was told is that your brain will fall out if you do lsd.. It was worded exactly this way: "Every LSD user knows that it may not be this trip or the next, but one time the lsd user will have the 'fatal' trip causing the users head to split open" As a 10 year old boy, not knowing anything about drugs, you are going to think that this 'may' possibly be true. I picked up on it pretty quickly and at the end of the 2 weeks I saw what a ball of shit dare was. I dont even know why drug programs exist in schools. They do nothing what-so-ever to stop drug use. Out of all my friends, I have 2 friends who have never smoked or drank anything. That's like 2 out of 150 people or in my school. I think that the schools should still teach the true dangers of drugs, and the effects on your body (what each drug does, and if it's mentaly addicting/physically addicting). I hope you like this mail. Later Rich


Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 09:03:23 -0400 To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: Information Please Status: RO Sirs: I enjoy your page and find it informative. I will be checking out several of the articles you reference. I am trying to find an article published with in the last 18-24 months in the Wall Street Journal that also criticized DARE's purported effectiveness. I have had difficulty obtaining this article. Do you have any suggestions as to how I could proceed. The Journal's indexes are limited and have not proved successful. Thank you. XXXXX XXXXXXXXX Webmaster Response: I'm glad you found our page informative. Sadly, I don't know how to find the article you refer to. To my knowledge, the only article in the Wall St. Journal concerning DARE was about a schoolgirl in Maine, who was used as an informant by the local police against her parents through the agency of the DARE program. The episode was entirely sordid. A member of our group spoke with her mother around a year ago, and she told him the child has been permanently traumatized for life, and that the experience destroyed their family. Perhaps one of our readers could e-mail us the answer to webmaster@dare.org


From: XXXXXXXX XXX To: "'webmaster@dare.org'" Subject: Dare Canada Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 11:30:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: Hi, We've been hearing a lot about Dare in Canada thru your sponsorship with Country Style. Will there be a Dare Canada web site in the future? If so can we help? Let us know if we can be of assistance. XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXX-XXX-XXXX Toronto, Ontario. Webmaster Response: Hello? anyone out there? hello?


From: Chris XXXXXXX Reply-To: XXXXXXX@hooked.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: Hi there X-URL: http://www.dare.org/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: I found your page and was rather surprised to find that it was criticism of DARE propaganda rather than being the propaganda itself, considering the domain name. Given the number of hits and day on the counter, it would seem that the site is very new- I have to wonder, is DARE trying to bite your balls getting the truth of the web so they can use that domain name to further their cause, or will they? Your site seems like the kind they'd particularly hate, the kind that would make people realize, "hey, there's actually another opinion to this whole issue than the one they tell us on TV and in school." -Chris


Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 19:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: <960623193320_141226725@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: Web Page Visit Dear Webmaster, I would think that with all of the horrible things going on in this world which cry out for action, you would have something better to sharpen your pen (or keyboard) on than D.A.R.E. It seems clear to me from reading your webpage that you are obviously pushing another agenda-- legalization perhaps. If that is the case, why not just say so? This is a free country, isn't it? Or are you afraid of some kind of reprisal by the vast majority of Americans who do not favor a legalization answer to the drug problem? If you still are bent on knocking the D.A.R.E. program, you, at the very least, should make sure that the information that you present is accurate. There are a lot of flaws and fallacies contained on your page, which I could point out to you-- but it's your page, so the research is your job. "I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire spoke these words, and they ring true to me today. I just wish that you would focus your energy on something other than a program which has the best of intentions, delivered by teachers and cops who only wish to make the world a better place for kids to grow up in.

Webmaster Response: Don't think for a minute that all we do is this one DARE page. We are not pushing legalization - we are pushing for effective programs for our children. The information on our pages is really very slim. The actual information from our website is actually contained in the links to other people's sites, so we can't take responsibility for the research that the original authors worked on. The program may have the best of intentions, but it costs us over 700 million dollars a year, and the studies DARE has commissioned on itself have shown it to be ineffective at its stated goals. I don't know how much simpler it can get than that.


X-Mailer: GNNmessenger 1.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:23:55 From: XXXXXXXXXX@gnn.com (Timothy XXXXX) To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: DARE Articles It really upsets me when I read some of the articles that are published in this DARE page. You publish all the bad things that you can think of when it comes to DARE. Apparently you have not taught a DARE class and watched these kids learn about what drugs to do to their lives. I would be willing to bet that some of the people writing these articles are not drug free..... Webmaster Response: Sorry that the truth hurts. If you have any questions about the 'drug free' status of the writers at the various newspapers whose articles we link to, then write to them, not us. It's certainly not our job to enforce your morals on them.


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:14:21 -0700 Subject: A suggestion for the D.A.R.E. site To: webmaster@dare.org Organization: none Here's an idea. Why don't you guys post a list of questions that can be asked of D.A.R.E. officers by people who hear them speak. Surely the teacher cannot refuse to be asked a question without looking really bad. The questions should be phrased in such a way that they either state the truth about drug use in the question, or make the officer look like an idiot. For example: "Sir, the editors of the prestigious British medical journal 'Lancet' wrote in 1994 that, based on a review of the medical literature, they conclude that marijuana is safe to use in moderation, even over the long term. Can you direct me to the medical study or studies which shows why this group of doctors is wrong?" "Sir, why is it that the Partnership for a Drug Free America is mainly financially sponsored by manufacturers of beer and cigarettes?" etc. in the same vein. People visiting the site can download the questions and keep them in store for when they need them.


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:05:22 +0000 From: XXXXX XXXXXX Organization: Primenet To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: The Truth... Bless you for providing an example of the truth which seems so hard to find these days. The TRUTH that exposes D.A.R.E. for what it really is-- a lie-filled attempt to turn the children of America against ANYONE who uses recreational drugs, including their parents. D.A.R.E. is crap and many people know this but are too afraid to say or do anything about it due to the clout that the D.A.R.E. lawyers have. As I'm sure you know, they even sued a company somewhere back east for selling T-Shirts that had the D.A.R.E. logo and said: "Drugs Are Really Exciting." I found the shirt rather amusing... apparently DARE's lawyers didn't. They're a messed up, narrow-minded facist organization that needs to be stopped. Keep up the good work! XXXXX XXXXXXX (Mad Hatter)


Date: Sun, 25 Aug 96 22:09:24 -0700 From: XXXXX To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: Your webpage is entrapment and "fair use" does not apply, you dopehead An absolutely beautiful web page, righteous! From this moment onwards, anything I post about DARE will quote your page as if it were the official DARE bullshit. Thanks again for what you have done.


From: XXXXXXXXX@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 07:40:46 -0700 To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: dare pages X-URL: http://www.dare.org/ X-Status: I just wanted to say that I think that your pages are really wonderfully put together.. I've sent the url to many of my friends.. XXXXX


Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 12:21:40 -0700 From: University of Colorado Student Reply-To: Anonymous@Colorado.edu Organization: Univeristy of Colorado, Boulder To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: flame X-URL: http://www.dare.org/ X-Status: DARE doesn't work, and it lies like a sumbitch. I was a DARE counselor for two years, and have no regrets, but kinda wish I hadn't lied to kids. I'm into 3-4 types of drugs now. I'm also a triple major with a minor, putting myself through college! My other hobbies include scuba, rock climbing, mtn biking, sailing, ultimate frisbee, basketball, hockey... and about 80 other sports, movies, reading, the internet, museums... Boy, I guess I'm a loser! And my GPA went up sharply after I started using! And I have a nice and clean record! I don't pollute, I treat almost everybody equally, and have a great job at a microbrewery, witha boss who will smoke pot with me! I can discuss any of a million topics intelligently, and admire Al GOre and Newt Gingrich for admitting that they were pot smokers. Gee, pot smoking really harmed Newt and Als' careers, didn't it? If they hadn't inhaled, maybe they wouldn't be stuck in their low end jobs, maybe they both could be President at the same time! Television is the most powerful drug in history, leaving 80% of America in a near catatonic state for 4 hours a day! Get a clue! Dare to think for yourself! My Grandfather died of lung cancer, I know lots of people who die from alcohol. I have seen drugs taken 4000-+ times, without one person going to the hospital, and with minimal police problems. Alcohol causes a million times more harm (in my experience, through physical degradation, and crimes) than all other drugs combined! XXXXXXX@ucsub.colorado.edu


Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:03:32 -0600 From: XXXX XXXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0B2 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: webmaster@dare.org Subject: propaganda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: Why does it say that students get school credit for suffering through dare? I never got jack-shit, save for the t-shirt they forced me to buy. I guess that is what makes it the #1 selling dare product, huh? Also, I remember being pressured into signing an oath saying that I would never try drugs. Personally, I wanted to leave myself open to try drugs if I so made the decision. I believe that by being forced to sign the oath, it rendered it meaningless. In fact, I believe that it was counterproductive to the dare program, because it made me want to see first hand what all the drug fuss was about. Needless to say, I tried pot the next year, and liked it. I didn't suddenly become a brain-dead, drug-addict zombie. I have no desire to try any other drug, thereby defeating your "gateway-drug" argument. I have been on the honor roll ever SINCE I tried marijuana, thereby defeating your "loss of memory and motivation" argument; actually, I find drugs and their effect on the human brain and body quite an intriguing topic, and thus have done much research on it. You might say that I was "motivated" by drugs to increase my knowledge of them. At least if the dare program is not discontinued, please teach the truth. I discovered for myself how many dare-lies I was spoon-fed. I don't think I would have anything against dare if all I had been told was the truth. Tell the kids that any drug may be both used and abused and explain the difference between the two. Teach the children that only they have the power in their lives to choose whether or not to do drugs. Nobody likes a big, mean dare-cop bitching at them not to do drugs and scaring them with all their drug lies. I cannot say that all dare classes are this way, but mine was and most of my friends from other schools will attest to the fact that theirs was a similar experience. I remember a 4th of July party I was at with some friends of the family a few years back. At this party there was a copius amount of liquor. With the consent and supervision of my parents, I got drunk for my first time. I would have to say that it was one of the worst experiences of my life (but one I am glad I had) as I could not convey my feelings nor could I control my body. At the end of the night, I vomited all over my bed. Rest assured, I will never drink again. My parents did the right thing by supervising my drinking and letting it go further than enjoyable. If they did not let me get so drunk, I might not have grasped the repercussions of drinking and I possibly would have killed someone and/or myself in a drunk-driving accident in that future. Now if I want to kick back and relax, I *might* choose to smoke some cannabis, as it does much more for relaxation than alcohol (at least for me). This can be compared to a man coming home from a long day at work and "having a brew" to recuperate from the day's harsh labors. Just as a beer or two is hardly devastating, neither is one bong-hit. If I do one bong-hit I am very well-to-do and I don't even have a pound and a half of beer through my liver and in my stomach. So, by Daryl F. Gates' standards, I should be shot merely because I choose pot over alcohol? Sick. XXXX XXXXXXX Sixteen-year-old Computer Programmer A+ Student Internet Enthusiast Marijuana Consumer Future of America


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